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β™² @Shamar@qoto.org: The problem (apart from capitalism, obviously) is that people can't code.

So while it's obvious to hackers that the best outcome is when code is and is kept in the commons, to most people the only advantage of #FreeSoftware is that it's free as in beer.

They cannot really study, modify and distribute forks of the software they use, be it proprietary or not.

To change this state of things we need to work on at least two aspect of our society: #Culture and #Technology.

We need systems designed to compose and we need to teach people why and how to code and debug.

Then people will find unacceptable to not being able to hack their own software.

@clacke I can't agree, because the situation when all ppl can code is never going to arise.
Rather ppl need to learn (be taught) that with free software there is nearly always a community of people to make sure that plays like the one Adobe just made will come to Nothing.
Therefore free, as in free speech, software should be preferred, promoted and supported.
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@clacke

Right!

The situation when all people can read and write is never going to arise.

Rather ppl need to learn (be taught) to . Possibly without that confusing "F".

I guess the Pharaoh would be proud of you, my little scribe.

(sorry @gemlog but whenever someone says this sort of things, this is what I ear πŸ˜‰)

@Shamar @clacke
No need to be sorry - I don't understand the reference.

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Each time somebody tell me "you can't teach to everybody" I instantly see them like Amenhotep, son of Hapu that carefully explain to me like I was five: "You can't to everybody".

It's exactly the same.

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@Shamar @clacke
No it isn't.
You *can* teach reading and writing to everyone to a good level of competence. Hangul has shown that.
Coding is a different game that does not model a natural spoken language you already know.

@Shamar @clacke Very like.
Clearly you haven't met some of my students... ;-)

@gemlog @Shamar @clacke

A better comparison may be music.

Playing an instrument is like writing code. Almost anyone beyond a basic entry level of intelligence can translate an algorithm into a specific code, just as almost anyone can bang a drum more or less on time.

Doing software design and abstract analysis to a productive level in a complex environment is more like composition for an orchestra. Not everyone has the combination of talent, knowledge and motivation to do it well.

Writing has similar issues: almost everybody can be taught to write well enough for their communication needs, not everybody will spend the time and effort to learn how to write bestseller books.
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