Shamar @Shamar@qoto.org

acme + sqlite is already shaping up to be a much better SQL experience than that huge mess of Java that is Oracle's SQL Developer

@ajroach42 @lesbianhacker @alcinnz I wasn't very serious, but don't mistake my disagreement for incomprehension. We have email and file transfers; have had since the UUCP and FIDO days; and those things are not broken and are the core applications. I don't think needing new application areas is really the top issue for non-realtime networks. It is true that "social networking" doesn't seem well served by them but I think we might do better to just not have that, than to try hard to build it.

@ajroach42 @alcinnz @lesbianhacker Email is *the* core application of UUCP, and client software always used to support UUCP-style email addresses just fine. Maybe there are some new email clients that don't, but going back to the older clients wouldn't require all that much new software.

The Web, yes, is something we can't do without realtime networking. But it's basically dead at this point anyway as browsers have changed from reading documents to executing code.

@mattskala @ajroach42 @lesbianhacker And, by the way, I do like to advocate for transitioning back to a Web without clientside scripting.

@grainloom @amsomniac @Shufei @neauoire Liquid War is peculiar but fun: https://www.gnu.org/software/liquidwar6/

https://text.npr.org/ is an amazing site. But it can be better! This is my stylesheet for it, which you can import into Stylish:

body {
max-width: 40rem;
margin: auto;
text-align: justify;
font-size: 11pt;
font-family: serif;
}
body > p:nth-child(4) {
font-size: 1.7rem;
font-weight: bold;
font-family: sans-serif;
}

Le 4e jeu des #ergogames est sorti et c'est moi qui l'ai développé avec mes petites mimines 👐 (premier jeu en 10 ans d'informatique alors que j'étais parti là-dedans pour faire des jeux #originalité #ilétaittemps)

Le principe des Ergogames est de vous faire découvrir des principes d'ergonomie à travers des mini-jeux et c'est imaginé par deux anciennes collègues.

https://www.ergogames.fr/

@Shamar @eqe @dthompson @cwebber

And looking at the mailing list I find this mail to be a very reasonable point of view on the issue: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00020.html

> Open Source encourages theft
> I think we can agree that if I extract value from your labor, you deserve compensation.

What if I intentionally publish something that I want people to use because it advances my agenda? Like pkgconf for example.

> Money just is the medium for exchanging value, and without compensation, there is no fair exchange of value.

What about thank you notes, headpats, plushies and even cookies? Maybe I don't feel like I am being robbed because I refuse to contribute to open core projects unless I am being paid to do so.

> There’s just me stealing your labor.

Not if I voluntarily donate my labor to the commons (the actual commons, that is). At that point, any compensation (in the form of money, thank you notes, headpats, plushies and cookies) is just a bonus.

> The users of AzuraCast are stealing the labor of Buster Neece.

To the extent that iHeartRadio^WClearChannel is making use of his software, sure.

> Amazon is stealing the labor of MongoDB’s engineers.

MongoDB is an "open core" software that is funded by some of the most vile and cannibalistic vulture capital funds on the planet. I'll be sure to play a sad song on my violin once I unpack it.

> It’s a tragedy of the commons at planet scale.

I can think of many larger tragedies. Your ICE example, for one.

Which browser is consuming much more power than competitive ones? @3rik presenting interesting numbers and thoughts on #digital #sustainability in connection with #FreeSoftware at the @fsfe GA.

So, what's your guess?

@mxmehl @3rik @fsfe All I know is that there's far more code/features in all the browser engines than I'd like. I've looked.

@eff ayup. It's not a question of "do you trust the government?" but a question of "do you trust all possible future governments?". If not, it doesn't matter what decent people are *collecting* the data now.

the thing about blockchains is that they don't work *at all* in an off-grid scenario. i don't think there's anything to gain from excluding blockchain solutions from tracker, but they won't be in core because we want to have robust support for off-grid scenarios.

On sait qu'une série de téléphones Android récents et d'autres datant de quelques années sont vulnérables. Appliquez les mises à jour dès qu'elles seront disponibles et utilisez un navigateur non-Chrome d'ici là #news https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/10/attackers-exploit-0day-vulnerability-that-gives-full-control-of-android-phones/

"With Category Theory, Mathematics Escapes From Equality"
"Two monumental works have led many mathematicians to avoid the equal sign. Their goal: Rebuild the foundations of the discipline upon the looser relationship of “equivalence.” The process has not always gone smoothly."
https://www.quantamagazine.org/with-category-theory-mathematics-escapes-from-equality-20191010/

Does anyone here have a really crazy project on github I can collaborate to?

#boosts appreciated

@zensaiyuki @Shamar @nepfag @petit
Free software doesn't have to mean a design free-for-all.

HTML is fragmented and has market share because Worse Is Better, and it has been very productive. But we are not talking about what's more productive.

We are talking about what's conceptually clean, usable and programmable for the casual end user, grokkable. HTML is not it.

With what we have learned from over two decades of web, we are armed with the knowledge to create a Better Is Better alternative.

@grainloom @zenhack @xj9