@david_megginson @tinker

"I still find the whole FOSS license landscape unnecessarily complicated. Sometimes we're our own worst enemies."

yes. yes we do.

problem is all sorts of smart people who figure that because they are smart with tech, they know law, business, and contracts. add in disagreements about "the right solution to keeping the code 'pure'" and there we are.

i've been doing internet for decades, most in some way touching/using OSS and i think it's mostly a good thing. but it sure isn't easy. or free.

@paul_ipv6 @tinker Yes. And I think it's also a symptom of how little coders understand the world outside coding —while some FOSS license users share RMS's ideological mission (for better or worse), most seem to be afraid that someone else will "get rich" from their code, not realising the enormous gulf (in time and money) between a pile o'code in a software project and an actual marketable product.

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This is a very American vision about the matter.

Nobody care of people getting rich with their code (or at least, very very few people give a shit about that,, outside the USA).

The problem is cultural: code is culture and everyone should be allowed to access any code and build on that.

licenses are just tools to this aim. The problem with is that, despite his huge culture, he's still too aligned with American value system (aka ) to really understand the limits of routinely used by corporations to exploit developers on one hand, and to expoil the users of the freedoms his licenses are designed to grant (and many other too!)

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