I was considering buying a Live USB of Ubuntu 20.04, because there's people who I recommended installing Ubuntu instead of Debian as a caution measure (it's easier to find "Ubuntu" listed on a website, or to search for Ubuntu fixes, or find Ask Ubuntu)

but they closed down the store a year ago, hmm

even then, apparently they only had Ubuntu 16.04 merchandise

in 2019

and the last time they had bootable media was also for Ubuntu 16.04

and the last discs they sold were for 14.04, which I actually own

anyway, since 20.04 RC1 is out, I'll be doing some testing

got an Ubuntu 18.04 setup ready to update

for some reason Characters and Logs inconsistently use the current GNOME icons

if you're experienced, upgrading Ubuntu is relatively easy - `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`, then follow instructions. Make sure no important packages are removed, and watch out for service restarts!

lmao no don't

it would also delete Orca, Remmina, Totem and Transmission *what*

anyway, said no, upgrade complete

aaaaaaaaaaaaaand I can't login with any users

greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

this is releasing in two days

...at least people won't be suggested to upgrade until 20.04.1

rebooted by getting into a TTY, *now* it works

@xerz is this pseudo mac os x?

@a_breakin_glass it's GNOME so take that as you will

@xerz
Do you like Ubuntu so far? I used to install on my laptop and switch to Windows now.
Because I found the switch input method is not convenient

@a_breakin_glass

@Sphinx @a_breakin_glass I would say, if you've not used Linux much, go for it, but ONLY IF you don't need to work with big Office files too much.

The newest version of Ubuntu, 20.04, is getting released in 2 days (but you can get it right now if impatient), and will have updates and support until 2025. Almost every difficulty with installing and using Linux is gone. You'll have popular stuff like Whatsapp, Telegram, Skype, Zoom, Teams, Jitsi, etc. right away. Every website and web app will just work, including Netflix and Disney+ (and if it asks for Chrome, you can easily install it). You can connect your phone and copy data with each other, even manage SMS and calls from the computer with an extra app. Even printers and scanners should be straighforward in most cases. And yeah, it looks unusually slick and cool.

BUT, LibreOffice still has a hard time with complex Office docs, and doesn't have "real" online collaboration features.

If you need to work with proper Office documents and/or with other people at once, you can always use Office Online, Google Docs or maybe ONLYOFFICE/Nextcloud. If you only need it for administrative and casual stuff, LibreOffice will work out well - just make sure to copy your Windows fonts into your new Ubuntu.

@Sphinx @a_breakin_glass as for the input method, I don't have much to complain about, it works as I would expect it to. Any specific complaints?

@xerz
Thank you for your reply. Wow, you typed in Chinese. does that mean you can speak Mandarin?
I remember what I used to installed is the 18.04 LTS version. When I switch the input method I need use a mouse to click. Any of the shortcut of the keyboard didn’t work. That’s made me a little frustrated.
I remember I was watching a YTB video about how to step up the icon through syntactic. It was fun.
I didn’t found this intelligent pinyin method

@Sphinx I'm not good at all at Mandarin yet! But hey, I know how to use a keyboard

Adding the intelligent pinyin method was effortless, it comes installed right away so you only have to choose it in settings (might be a new thing?) - it's enabled for you if the system is in (Simplified) Chinese. Changing between input languages is as simple as pressing Windows-Space, I've just checked and it works as expected. You can also switch between simplified and traditional with Ctrl-Shift-F and between Chinese and Latin characters with the Shift key alone.

@xerz
I agree. maybe a new thing.
I may change back to Ubuntu someday
I used to install the OS in my USB it was 18.04. how do I get the 20.04 in my USB? when I install next time it will be automatic 20.04.
I remember there is a function is log in One Ubuntu. It will auto-update don’t need to restart your computer but I’m not very sure