@a7 @11112011 @MaceDindu @Oblivia @judgedread @p @Julia @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @AlliM @sjw @ipslfn@twingyeo.kr

Jewish people do not typically say we're only a religion- so I'm not sure where that retarded argument is coming from. Religiously, that is correct- the 'line' is passed down through the mother.

Jewish people, however, are a cultural and ethnic group. We share DNA signatures and tags that go far enough to show us as a group within the human species.

Were you aware that the earliest Zionists didn't give a hot-shit about where the 'Jewish country' would be? They just wanted to get out of Europe- because Europe has proven time and time again it can not and has no interest in protecting it's minorities- and it's Jews in particular.

You have no real arguments here. You seem to just be angry and shrieking 'THE JOOOOOOOOOOS' but pretending that Israel is the reason. I mean, shit- your major arguments are arguments against JEWISH people and not against ISRAEL'S policies. It goes into genetics, for some fucking idiot reason, it even goes into 'you all get slaughtered like you deserve'.

Israel is not a perfect country, and has some truly fucked up policies. I will be among the first people to admit that. I vote and participate in the civil society in a hope to change those policies in a democratic way.

You also seem to forget that most of the region doesn't give a hot shit if Israel actually is here or not- they don't care about the Palestinians. It's in their best interest for Israel to be here to balance out Iran- and furthermore, as a convenient scapegoat for the internal issues in their country. Without Israel there is less money, and less stability as the Arab countries would almost certainly go back to war against each other as they had for the 1000 years prior.

The facts on the ground are that Israel is here. Suggesting to 'slaughter everyone in a country' is hardly a good argument into solving issues.

But I somehow doubt you actually give a shit about solving issues, a7. I might be wrong, but I think you want a convenient way to hate "THE JOOOOOOOS"

I've added you to my 'List' of Goy to curse with my vile jew sorcery. ~BEWARE OF THE EVIL EYE~

@Surasanji @a7 @11112011 @MaceDindu @Oblivia @judgedread @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @AlliM @sjw @ipslfn Israel is the world's representative of the Jewish people, whether you like it or not. You can't just disassociate yourself. In the same way I can't disassociate from what my president says and does as an American, he is representative of me as far as anyone who matters on the global stage is concerned.

@Julia @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn@twingyeo.kr @sjw @judgedread @Oblivia @bagofshit @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke

Israel is representative of Israelis, Jewish or otherwise. If you're going to associate Israel with all Jewish people you're an idiot. The only people you should blame for Israel are Israelis- Jewish or not.

And no one thinks you represent every action your government undertakes. That would be fucking stupid.

@Surasanji @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn @sjw @judgedread @Oblivia @bagofshit @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke Israel is literally the singular representative state for Jews in the world.

@Julia @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn@twingyeo.kr @sjw @judgedread @Oblivia @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit

Saying that is like saying that the Vatican- as the representative of Catholics- is the singular representative of anyone Catholic. Anything the Catholic Church has done, as it is ruled by the Vatican, is the direct responsibility of all Catholic peoples.

Likewise, it's like saying that all Anglican people are directly represented by the Government of England, as the head of the Church and the State are the same person.

Israel calls itself the Jewish state- that is true- but a state is only representative of it's citizens. If you say all Jews are guilty of any crime allegedly committed by Israel as a country you are very simply wrong. You are making Jewish people who are not Israeli guilty by association, and you are further ignoring the Israeli population who is NOT Jewish and supports the country.

The Druze, the Circasians, the Arab Christians, the Bedouin- all people who support Israel.

What you're suggesting is neither logical or fair to those people who are no more associated with Israel than some random Catholic in Brazil is associated with the direct diplomatic actions taken by the Vatican.

@Surasanji @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn @sjw @judgedread @Oblivia @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit NIGGER THE VATICAN DOES REPRESENT ALL CATHOLICS LITERALLY BY DEFINITION OF HOW THE RELIGION IS STRUCTURED

@Julia @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn@twingyeo.kr @sjw @judgedread @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @Oblivia

But to blame random Catholic people for the actions of the Church is fair?

@Surasanji @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn @sjw @judgedread @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @Oblivia Why are you doing all this shifty Jew speak?

If you are a Catholic, the church is representative of you. If you don't like it, you can renounce your Catholicism.

@Julia @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn@twingyeo.kr @sjw @judgedread @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @Oblivia

'Shift Jew Speak'?

I'm pointing out that a group of people are not necessarily represented by the state mechanism of a country they are not citizens of.

@Surasanji @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn @sjw @judgedread @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @Oblivia Necessarily, whether they agree or not, they are represented by the group they are a part of. That's what the concept of citizenship is.

@Julia @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn@twingyeo.kr @sjw @judgedread @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @Oblivia

And you're lumping all Jews together- regardless of their citizenship.

@Surasanji @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn @sjw @judgedread @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @Oblivia Typical Jew rhetoric.

"An individual is not a group therefore there is no group."

Retarded.

@Julia @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn@twingyeo.kr @sjw @judgedread @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @Oblivia

You are misframing the argument. Jews who are not citizens of Israel can not be held accountable for the actions of the Israeli state.

If you do, you are a racist POS.

@Surasanji @Julia @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn @sjw @judgedread @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @bagofshit @Oblivia

Imaging walking into a kiwifarms hellthread and dangling around the term "Racist" like it holds any fucking meaning. Ontop of that saying specifically "Racist POS."

Take a good fucking look around you, kiddo. No one gives a shit.

@DA70D6 @MaceDindu @a7 @ipslfn@twingyeo.kr @sjw @judgedread @11112011 @AlliM @p @LarryFoulke @Julia @Oblivia @bagofshit

Uh, excuse me, this is a FSE Hellthread. I'm supposed to call people Racist. It's in the ToS.