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As a general rule if your going around blocking people who are poljte but disagree with you, then you are probably a piece of shit human... not because of the blocking itself, but its a pretty clear red flag your shit.
@freemo Really? I've seen a small number of racists/homophobes/fascists/antivaxxers go by on the global timeline. They were being "polite" by their own standards, but they were also being racist/homophobic/whatever. I don't need that in my life, I looked at their timelines to check I wasn't misunderstanding where they were coming from and then I blocked them. I don't feel like I'm a bad person for doing so.
@VoxDei "polite by their own standards" is not the same as "polite". You can not be a racist or homophobe and be polite.
Antivaxxer is another matter, thats stupid but not neccesarly impolite. So easy enough to ignore or even just silence it out of your tineline. But no need to block really.
@freemo I don't know about that. You can't say something racist that I would consider polite, but it's perfectly possible for them to do it while not being deliberately offensive, it's just how they are. Doesn't mean I want to see it.
You can say that about anything - antivaxxers, for instance, if I've lost someone to Covid (and I have lost family members, though only fairly distant family) then I might consider that to be rude/upsetting, where again they weren't trying to be in-your-face about it or anything.
As for block vs. silence... isn't that just personal preference? I may be misunderstanding, but the effect on me is the same - I don't see their stuff. It's just down to whether I'm willing for them to see mine. It's vanishing unlikely they would, but I don't see why they should anyway, I just don't want to interact with them on any subject other than a polite and serious discussion as to how they became like they are and how it could be changed.
@freemo Oh yeah, I agree, racism is always impolite. To me, and to the race they disrespected. But my point is that's just an example - *any* view could be looked at that way by someone. Someone could decide one of my opinions is rude and block me for it, even though I wasn't trying to be offensive.
My understanding of your original post was that you were saying people shouldn't block people for saying things they disagree with politely. I'm saying you shouldn't judge people to be impolite by your own standards, but rather by whether the offence was deliberate. But then if you do that then there's nothing wrong with saying "You might be being 'polite' by your own standards, but I still don't want to talk to you or hear from you" and blocking them.
@VoxDei im not talki g about if someone personally finds something rude or impolite, im talking about something **is** rude or impolite, in an objective sense.
Of course it just so happens that what is objectively impolite are all the things i have determined to be rude ;)
@freemo Yeah, you've hit the nail on the head exactly. It's subjective. ;-)
I do a number of things that my mother-in-law considers rude and I don't (for example, using the word "guys" to refer to a group of people who aren't all male, or using my fork as a scoop rather than a spearing implement when faced with peas or similar). Occasionally she tells me off for them, usually by proxy by telling my son off for them. I think this is completely unreasonable. Neither of us is being "rude" by our own tenets, both of us probably wish we could block the other, at least sometimes. 😂
@VoxDei its not subjective, its objective. And im the one who is enligbtened enough to know what that is, duh! ;)
In all seriousness though leg me put it another way... its not about rudeness its more about hate, antagonism and aggression... which is only partly about intent... there is no way to think black people are subhuman and not be hateful
@freemo I agree. I absolutely agree. But they don't.
I think we've reached the point where we're arguing semantics now. I think we would both say "You shouldn't block people just for disagreeing with you" and "You can block people because you find what they say offensive" and "Some things it's possible to disagree on without giving offence, and some things it isn't". :-)
@VoxDei yea seems we are more or less in alignment outside of perhaps a bit of nuanced cases
@VoxDei and if you just dont enjoy talking to them, thats fine, dont.. take them out of your federated feed if you want, but if they want to comment and interact on your posts, particularly with others, who cares.
@freemo Why would I not care? At that point I don't know what they're doing in response to something I've said. They might be mocking me, they might be doxxing me, they might be inciting violence. All of these things are unlikely, but I don't owe them anything, and they're not going to change because of a random post of mine.
I don't really see the point in just muting, TBH, in most cases, at least. If I don't want to interact with you then that is a two way street, for me.
@VoxDei the issue, as i see it, is it makes it look like you dont want dissenting opinions in your feed, whicb in turn looks like your trying to manipulate the conversation and eliminate counter arguments in an attempt to make sure your views arent challenged and refined and so you can control the narrative.
@freemo I think that's ascribing way more intention to this than exists. I don't think more motive is required than "I don't want to talk to you and I don't want you to talk to me". It's perfectly possible to disagree with me and challenge my views within my own definition of politeness, if people want to do that then they're welcome - we're doing it now. ;-)
But there are things I just don't want to hear about, and people I don't want to hear from. Yes, that results in an element of the "filter bubble" that social media is so notorious for, but I don't feel like I need to fill my timeline with stuff I don't want to hear about just to avoid that.
@VoxDei i mean you do you.. obviously it was a general rule not a hard rule, so the details are in the nuance.
But if there is something i dont want to hear about or care about (like antivaxxers) i just dont read their posts when they pop up. But i think its still a good idea to let them have a presence in any thread in case someone might want to have thst interaction
@VoxDei if you know they are racist then thry said something to give you that information. Whatever it is thry said is impolite. Maybe not to you, but it is to the race they spoke of.
Finding something upsetting isnt the same as finding somethibg rude.. this one is a harder sell for me.
There are different types of silence. If you dont silence notifications then all your doing is removing then from your public feed but they can still talk to you and be friendly with you.