It's occurring to me that I probably have a very strange moral system.

@light Too be fair, most "normal" moral systems tend to be rather disturbing, so

@OpenComputeDesign @light I'm a bit hung up on the meanings of "moral" and "ethics". I know not everyone uses these like i do, but with "moral" i associate things set by people in power (like the church teaching their views) or "we always did it that way". With ethics, i associate a philosophical, truth-seeking approach to "how do we want to live".

Since neither of you are contrary to discussing things, i don't think that you are all too infected by morals.

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I guess I always kinda thought the distinction was more like one is more sort of the overarching theory, and the other is more specific and how it's actually applied

@OpenComputeDesign @light Might theoretically be so, but the term "moral" has been ruined by people selfishly claiming it without any consideration for others.

If you have people that have negative ethics (like i wanna get richer, even if people die for that) telling others what is good, the practical application is clearly harmful.

So, what is the unusual you see in yourself? Not having the aforementioned negative ethics or something else?

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That's fair. People sure are good at coopting and corrupting words.

In my particular case, my ethical system is very girl-child focused. Every other group of people simply does not matter as much to me.

@OpenComputeDesign @light Special protections would make sense, if the group has special dangers they face, this much checks out.

So far, i can't see anything unusual, lots of people see a need for special protections for female and/or very young people. As long as you don't advertize throwing old men into a meat grinder, you're with the majority of those that actually try to be ethical, i think.

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>As long as you don't advertize throwing old men into a meat grinder
Sadly, many people are in favour of doing that to young men.

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I suppose this might be where some of my internal conflict comes from.
Growing up hearing that males are dumb, cruel, clumsy, slow, and generally inferior in every way, it hurt me a lot, and I sort of feel like boys are the ones I should be striving to protect.

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There can be multiple specially endangered groups at once. You can advocate for special protections / help for one and also acknowledge the other needs something too.
I can clearly see the problem for males - no large group (like >10% of society) gets a good upbringing, the harm done to males is just different than the harm done to females. Leaving one emotionally crippled, pushing towards a very unproductive hostility, those things aren't ok either. What good is it for me when i can assert myself, but the way to do that makes people prepare knives to stick into my back? (exaggerated, hypothetical)

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