It's occurring to me that I probably have a very strange moral system.
@OpenComputeDesign I know I do.
@light Too be fair, most "normal" moral systems tend to be rather disturbing, so
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@OpenComputeDesign @light I'm a bit hung up on the meanings of "moral" and "ethics". I know not everyone uses these like i do, but with "moral" i associate things set by people in power (like the church teaching their views) or "we always did it that way". With ethics, i associate a philosophical, truth-seeking approach to "how do we want to live".
Since neither of you are contrary to discussing things, i don't think that you are all too infected by morals.
I guess I always kinda thought the distinction was more like one is more sort of the overarching theory, and the other is more specific and how it's actually applied
@OpenComputeDesign @light Might theoretically be so, but the term "moral" has been ruined by people selfishly claiming it without any consideration for others.
If you have people that have negative ethics (like i wanna get richer, even if people die for that) telling others what is good, the practical application is clearly harmful.
So, what is the unusual you see in yourself? Not having the aforementioned negative ethics or something else?
That's fair. People sure are good at coopting and corrupting words.
In my particular case, my ethical system is very girl-child focused. Every other group of people simply does not matter as much to me.
@OpenComputeDesign @light Special protections would make sense, if the group has special dangers they face, this much checks out.
So far, i can't see anything unusual, lots of people see a need for special protections for female and/or very young people. As long as you don't advertize throwing old men into a meat grinder, you're with the majority of those that actually try to be ethical, i think.
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>As long as you don't advertize throwing old men into a meat grinder
Sadly, many people are in favour of doing that to young men.
I suppose this might be where some of my internal conflict comes from.
Growing up hearing that males are dumb, cruel, clumsy, slow, and generally inferior in every way, it hurt me a lot, and I sort of feel like boys are the ones I should be striving to protect.
The other part of my conflict comes from the fact that I feel so strongly in my protection of girls, that I want to go back in time and abolish Rome, China, and any other civilization that has habitually thrown baby girls in the trash heap.
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@OpenComputeDesign @admitsWrongIfProven Rome threw babies in general into the trash heap. I remember hearing about archeologists finding baby bones in the gutters of an ancient Roman brothel.
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@light @admitsWrongIfProven I suppose on my moral compass, while girl children "reign supreme", boy children apparently still rate above adults in general. Or at least, all children sit higher than any adult that would sacrifice a child.
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@OpenComputeDesign @light I feel like trying to make a ladder for this is likely to backfire. Special problems and need for help, yeah. Seeing one as more worthy than another, not compatible with general human dignity.
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@admitsWrongIfProven @light That's true. Even as a "tie breaker", it's not necessarily helpful. There's a reason I don't think I should be in charge of anything important
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@OpenComputeDesign @light I guess mostly i consider such fake scenarios that need them to be distraction.
You don't need much trolley problems in real life, what you do need is understanding what those are supposed to distract you from.
For example the classical: "Should the self-driving car hit the infant, elderly or the middle aged?"
A total non-question. There's a lot to be done to be safer, and this just distracts from the heavy damage car manufacturers have done by not doing it / lobbying for less security considerations.
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@admitsWrongIfProven @light
That's a damn good point