This is such a bleak fucking planet
@chestycougth Yeah, that's the one
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@OpenComputeDesign @chestycougth If we could put the humans out of frame always it might be pretty ok?
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth
Even without humans I'm really not a fan of this planet tbh
@OpenComputeDesign @admitsWrongIfProven why so? Personally I think it has a lot of cool stuff going on even if you ignore the biology
@chestycougth @admitsWrongIfProven
Without humans, all other life still sucks. And without life, it's just another big rock in a field of big rocks
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Is the life on this specific planet really the issue?
Might there be a confounding issue?
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth The problem really, is that the universe is just really cruel and uncaring.
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It is. But what makes this unbearable is humans, how they act, not the universe, right?
The universe is our playground, and we collectively chose to make it a place of torture.
Not any one person, but the choices, influenced by previous choices... might i have done anything useful if my ancestors had not be conditioned to be useless or harmful?
Might you have? What is keeping you, the past or the present?
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth
I mean, because I am a human, I would say humans are probably the worst things in the universe. But even if I was the only human in existence, I would still deeply dislike the universe
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But why? I'm all for some nice, thorough disdain, but what is the issue?
I presented some disdain of mine, but what is yours?
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth
I guess my main problem with the universe is, it has no justice
@OpenComputeDesign @admitsWrongIfProven It has laws, i.e. physical laws, but justice is a human concept. A concept created to help manage law and order among humans. Justice is not a natural law. Pain exists as something universal to probably all conscious life, but happiness has the same privilege.
There will always be things that to a humans conception of things are 'unjust', but that's just not understanding that 'justice' is not a natural law as mentioned above
@chestycougth @admitsWrongIfProven
Yes, the universe does not care how much things suffer. Fairness is not only not a universal law, it's not even possible.
I absolutely do not want to live in a universe that isn't fair
@OpenComputeDesign @admitsWrongIfProven It's totally possible to live in an unfair universe. Take your slice of life, look out for yourself but then just look out for others when you can which it sounds like you're doing already. 'fairness' is just a concept that emerges when agents are looking out for their own competing interests but mutual cooperation emerges as a biological imperative. That's one way to look at it anyway. But it's happier to look at it as us all helping each other
@chestycougth @admitsWrongIfProven
I simply do not see that there is enough good in the world to outweigh the bad
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Yeah, same. But ending one's life is awfully tedious and brings harm too, so i guess evasion beats the hammer of justice here?
@chestycougth @admitsWrongIfProven Yes, I know it would be unjust to kill myself. That's the only reason I'm still here
@OpenComputeDesign @admitsWrongIfProven have you ever seen a doctor about how you feel? You can DM me on WhatsApp or signal if you prefer. I'll write in my email so you can contact me with your number/DM details if you want
@chestycougth @admitsWrongIfProven
No, I don't trust them, and can't anyway
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Finding someone who is not only qualified on paper but actually a decent person is hard in general. I heard about that from people i know seeking therapy. I can see that this would be hard when you live in an area where there are like three people on every 100 square kilometers.
@admitsWrongIfProven @OpenComputeDesign I don't disagree. I've had a few psychiatrists and I've had some proper arseholes but then I've had a few that were pretty good. They often made medication decisions that were frustrating to say the least but often they were right and overall I would have been worse off without the medication they prescribed. And they will listen to your medication preferences if you give their choices an honest go and you are vocal about what you think works for you
@chestycougth @admitsWrongIfProven
read, can delete now
@OpenComputeDesign @admitsWrongIfProven can you email me there just to confirm? Probably won't be able to reply in depth tonight since I'm in UK time zone and it's currently 4am here. But I would like to chat with you more if you're up for it?
@admitsWrongIfProven @OpenComputeDesign and it would be horrible for your family and friends to deal with @opencomputerdesigns and considering you said you care about justice it would be an extremely unethical thing to do if you still believe that