@strypey In Europe if you don't accept the Windows license at the start you can contact the manifacturer and get your money back for the price of the software. That is a reason to keep buying windows pcs, if they are the same price. Asus in my experience works.

@arteteco sure you can. Or, you can buy a device that is optimized for GNU/Linux, support a vendor that supports a free code OS instead of MS, and save yourself the admin of applying for the refund. Up to you of course :)

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@strypey I see your point of supporting FOSS supporting people, respect for that.

Just a little point.

The most common laptops shipped with linux here also have the option to buy it with windows.

At that point, what is better: getting the linux one and having to reinstall anyway to do FDE or whatever, or the windows one, get 50 bucks back AND be a pain in the ass to the producer because of their choice of using microsoft? Maybe that can help pushing in a different direction too...

I may be wrong though, I often am

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