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another original sin of mozilla was never including CACert.

letsencrypt was no problem to add because it's 💯 run by spooks.

everyone using LE for SSL and half of the net behind cloudflare. _what could possibly go wrong?_

@bonifartius Nooo you can't use self-signed certs they're insecure muh web of trust nooo

@iron_bug @scathach at least they aren't going to be "lawfully intercepted" like jabber.ru ..

i don't have a good solution either, but LE and cloudflare are clearly the problem not the solution.

I2P is pretty nice. i like that it's a complete darknet, not something to access the clearnet. maybe someday GNUnet will be usable ;)

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