@p it's really infuriating how brainwashed so many people are.

@bonifartius It doesn't really upset me, you know, like there are people that think that if they demonstrate a willingness to fit into the system that the system will cut some slack to accommodate them, and it doesn't; that's the defining feature of a system. It's not any more frustrating than a person doing a ritual to pick lottery numbers.

It is a little baffling that you have this organization that created the GPL because they understand that a corporation won't yield so they have to make it impossible for the corporation to appropriate code, but the same organization thinks that they can get a government to play ball.
@p

RMS makes the fundamental mistake that most collectivist idealists do. That others will act in good faith. I am not a communist because I know no human enterprise acts in good faith once actual humans are in any kind of position of power.

@bonifartius
@Leyonhjelm @bonifartius

> no human enterprise acts in good faith once actual humans are in any kind of position of power.

Hold on, I have to go learn Latin and then call the tattoo guy.
@p

Does he charge by the digit or by the arm on which he places the digits? Do you need to call my camp building guy? You're gonna need to get in quick, building season is ramping up

@bonifartius
@Leyonhjelm @bonifartius I don't know; I'm putting it on both arms and on my dick. Maybe I'll do different languages.
@p

I am sure you'd have room to put it in a variety of language in all three locations.

@bonifartius
@Leyonhjelm @bonifartius Get me some sweet linguist tail if I do enough languages.
@Leyonhjelm @bonifartius I saw what Frasier did when he was mayor of Chicago; I'm not taking the risk.
@Leyonhjelm @p @bonifartius you CAN get some humans that act in good faith, but they have to be extreme narcissists, and they will act in good faith but only in the manner they want, you get no say on the how and when.
@nerthos

Some is not enough. All is what collectivist projects require.

@bonifartius @p

@Leyonhjelm This is literally the exact same fundamental flaw of capitalism and free market adherents. The ideologies are virtually the same regardless of the hypothetical antidotes being seemingly opposite. @p @bonifartius

@adiz

I am less pro-capitalist than anti-communist and anti-socialist. My fundamental driver is that governments and human governing bodies are bad at what they do, not that what necessarily happens is good.

@p @bonifartius

@adiz @Leyonhjelm @p
the difference is that people can only act in good faith if they can choose to do so.

which they, by definition, can't do in collectivist systems. those are always one execution away from utopia.

@p if only they would realize that they could have infinite amount of slack cut if there was no one threatening torture and violence at all given times which is enabled by their appeasement. guess you can't force people to be happy.

GPL is based on voluntary contracts to which taxation is the polar opposite.

then, i know (as i used to think this way in the past, thanks to decades of brainwash) that in the euro mind the GPL is considered good because they regard it as "communist" and middle finger to capitalism. if i'm not mistaken taler is an european project, so that would explain the taxation fetish.

@bonifartius

> if i'm not mistaken taler is an european project, so that would explain the taxation fetish.

An entire continent resigned to serfdom. Very sad.

@p HA! at least we've got ROADS over here! :)

@p @bonifartius Is the "taxation fetish" part that the payee is identifiable and therefore can be taxed on income?

@adiz @bonifartius The part you are asking about is text I quoted, rather than text I wrote, so I'd be speaking for @bonifartius.

But also yes.
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@p @adiz @bonifartius someone needs to monitor how many tacos and chili pots that man eats
@p @adiz @bonifartius
did this fat fuck eat all the dollars and pesos? :think:
@p @adiz @bonifartius The Ugly Bastard is a mainstay character for a reason, after all

@adiz @p yes.

it's great that the taler devs develop a non shit free payment system. disabling anonymity for payment receivers is immediately wasting the effort (it's appeasement to authority to rakevin funding if you ask me). ANY state can turn full evil concentration camp mode at the blink of an eye, including the precious communist utopia.

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