i really fucking hate dependency management downloading packages from a centralized user submitted repository really grinds my fucking gears

this is like the one go flaw that makes me not use the language for absolutely everything

It's not centralized actually but they use caching servers iirc so it mostly is. Maybe there's a way to turn it off

@nyanide

> Maybe there's a way to turn it off

GOPROXY='direct'

@p interesante

@nyanide These are helpful: `go help environment`, `go env`, `echo FUCK YOU. Strongly worded letter to follow | sendmail rsc@golang.org`

@p @nyanide if only rsc was still involved. things will likely get full corporate bullshit now that he and the other old time go people aren't involved anymore.

@bonifartius @p no rsc is still involved he was the opne that proposed to remove powerpc support

@nyanide @p oh, i thought he was doing something else now

@nyanide @p ah, he stepped down as tech lead.

regarding powerpc, it's still listed on the build dashboard, just not as first class port https://build.golang.org/

@bonifartius @nyanide @p To be fair, removing ppc64 support isn't a good idea. Despite how niche it is, it's still used a lot in the enterprise world. I personally know people that need that support.

@bonifartius @RedTechEngineer @phnt @nyanide You gotta get into $20 ARM/RISC-V devices, that's where the shit is.

@p @bonifartius @RedTechEngineer @phnt @nyanide What are some good $20 RISC-V hardware to check out. I bought a Milk-V Duo for luls but that's about it.

@raphiel_shiraha_ainsworth @bonifartius @RedTechEngineer @phnt @nyanide There's always something around; I think a Milk-V would be cool, they seem to be the main ones doing interesting stuff at the moment. I have a RISC-V DevTerm, which I mainly got as a curiosity but it's a really fun system. I don't know of a really impressive $current_year one, I've been thinking of getting one of the Lychee cluster boards, but those are a little more than $20.

@p @RedTechEngineer @phnt @nyanide @raphiel_shiraha_ainsworth what i'd really like was something inexpensive with good storage options, like two sata ports for a raid or something. i don't really like to burn through sd cards all the time that would really help with hosting stuff at home.

still would leave the problem that my connection has shit upload bandwith. maybe i could get a business account from the cable provider or starlink or whatever to fix that, but it's another topic.

@bonifartius @p @RedTechEngineer @nyanide @raphiel_shiraha_ainsworth

>i don't really like to burn through sd cards all the time

Linux has some answers to that problem with filesystems like F2FS and JFFS2. They aren't that user-friendly as the normal ones, but it's still better than nothing and with some config changes that reduce write cycles, you can get a system that does barely any writes when idle (systemd can log to a ring buffer; same can be achieved with a more normal syslog setup and some ingenuity with logrotate and tmpfs). Some manufacturers even make uSD cards specifically made for these SBCs that have higher write endurance and more importantly aren't as slow.

@phnt @RedTechEngineer @p @nyanide @raphiel_shiraha_ainsworth this still limits their usability imo, because many interesting uses need storage to write to.

i'm not a hardware guy, i just wonder why so few boards include sata or m.2 ports.

i'd really love an inexpensive arm board with many sata ports to build a small nas with. you don't need much cpu power or much ram do do this, only a decent network interface.

@bonifartius @phnt @RedTechEngineer @nyanide @raphiel_shiraha_ainsworth

> i'd really love an inexpensive arm board with many sata ports to build a small nas with.

They've had kits for this ( https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/cloudshell-2-for-xu4/ ) but it's mostly DIY nowadays unless you spring for one of the boards that does have the m.2 already. Most of the RPi gear has a way to get at the PCIe bus nowadays. so you don't really need to worry about uSD cards much any more, except for portable systems. (Even then, though, like, the DevTerm/uConsole, people have tapped into the pins and shoved a "real" SSD inside. I use them as portable machines to talk to the bigger machines, though, so I don't mind treating the storage as disposable and I don't want to trade the battery life.)

You can sorta see the SATA ports next to the PSU on the TPi2 board; they're next to the power connector. (They're empty on FSE because the NVMe is slotted under the board.)
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@p @RedTechEngineer @phnt @nyanide @raphiel_shiraha_ainsworth i didn't know about the sata stuff for rpis, for a while i was eyeing rockpro64 because it has two sata ports so it could do a raid.

the turing board looks _really_ nice, thanks for the picture! i don't think i have the funds for the board and more than one compute module right now, but it would likely solve all my server needs i have here :)

i will follow up the rpi-cm-sata lead, a first search seems promising