@akai He is always wrong about everything except the digital hellscape.
@p i might not agree with all of his points, but i like alternate opinions as its good for mold breaking. i'd rather be challenged than accepted, as challenges to my opinions helps me think and refine my thinking. i can't exactly get on board completely with rms or fsf because it is very difficult to manage life as it is without certain products or tools. i think to live a life like rms would be highly impossible for me to do, and if possible very limiting. i think there is a certain extent of convenience that exists in the current state of things (smartphones,apps,etc), that is really hard to reach from the rms or free software realm of thinking. it isn't something i'm happy about, and i try my best to adhere to principles of freedom, etc etc but i'm not perfect, and all i can do is lead by example even if all the code i share is just funny bots for irc or gikopoi or some little side project

stuff like this is interesting but like wow im sure there are nerds out here that need this fanboy info: https://stallman.org/articles/childhood-sweetheart.html

i like to use this when people talk about having kids:
https://stallman.org/articles/children.html
@akai

> i might not agree with all of his points, but i like alternate opinions as its good for mold breaking.

Well, sure, if it's novel information. For example:

> https://stallman.org/articles/children.html

I don't have to click on it to know what he's going to say. I checked, and I didn't expect him to write "and also I'd be a shitty parent" but it turned out to, as expected, hit the "but there are too many people and there shouldn't be many people" checkbox and the "also I'd have to work too hard to feed a child" checkbox.

> i think there is a certain extent of convenience that exists in the current state of things (smartphones,apps,etc), that is really hard to reach from the rms or free software realm of thinking.

Do you think it's actually convenient? I have a phone because I have to have a phone; I don't think it has made my life any better, definitely not more convenient. It's a useless device that does its damnedest to interrupt me and I don't think I can remember how to play chess unless I'm sitting on a toilet.
@p i like how rms states "... I learned that portable phones make many people's lives oppressive, because they feel compelled to spend all day receiving and responding to text messages which interrupt everything else. Perhaps my decision to reject this convenience for its deep injustice has turned out best in terms of convenience as well." from
https://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.html

I personally don't find any of what a phone does to be truly convenient. (mostly just speaking about normies, that find it easier to just "google it" instead of go over to an alt. search engine, and this goes for lots of situations/choices) the situation I am in, I have to have a phone sadly. When my parole is up, I will be sure to have an Android that is not hooked up to any network, for the purpose of having an on the go GB/GBC/GBA/DS/3DS emulator and also e-reader (light novels, philosophy books, programming, norse mythology, you name it)...
i find the inconvenient part of a smartphone is having apps with lots of notifications, this is ADHD inducing and multi-task culture which is very counter-productive in nature.

smartphones are essentially fancy ankle monitors, in my experience, if used as connected to a network. otherwise, they are just a portable computer with some convenience if you limit what it is used for. (through will power and discipline, i limit my phone use every week, and i can imagine once i'm rid of texting and phone calls, i'll be using it only in public situations where i just want to read something while waiting or play a game while waiting, etc.)

trying to take the good w/ the bad i guess
@akai

> I personally don't find any of what a phone does to be truly convenient.

I will say being able to use GPS and map is great; I don't think I'd bother going past land-lines otherwise.

> for the purpose of having an on the go GB/GBC/GBA/DS/3DS emulator

Just buy one of the little special-purpose devices. There are some pretty good ones nowadays and the screens are usually designed to match the resolution instead of some battery-shitting 4k display.

> and also e-reader

So, I usually use my DevTerm for this. A uConsole would probably work better for games (the built-in joystick buttons have a better feel for games and the screen's aspect ratio is better for emulators) but your mileage may vary.

> otherwise, they are just a portable computer with some convenience if you limit what it is used for.

If I want that, I just get that.
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@p @akai >I will say being able to use GPS and map is great
That is a worse experience if you use a demon rectangle.

Maps are best saved for viewing offline and GPS does not require a mobile data connection (you just need a GPS receiver almost anywhere on earth).
@Suiseiseki @akai

> and GPS does not require a mobile data connection (you just need a GPS receiver almost anywhere on earth).

I have one. A thing that fits in my pocket and shows me a map of wherever I am and puts a dot where I am, that's useful.

I could ditch it if there were a reasonable program that could talk to OSM and the GPS receiver and didn't have a bunch of bullshit and actually compiled on my machine without Python wheels or whatever horseshit fluoride the CIA is cramming into packages that say "open sores" on their website but then they only provide wheels and they have several dozen dependencies and a bunch of those only provide wheels.
@Suiseiseki @akai

> actually compiled on my machine
> didn't have a bunch of bullshit
@p @akai Good to see your free software needs have been met.

Feel free to come again.
@bonifartius @Suiseiseki @akai I swear you could do a map in a single-threaded event-loop C program that reads from the GPS stream and updates the dot accordingly and another that fetches tiles and pipes shit to wish. I am not fucking with qt5, especially not on a portable device. It takes a lot of work to be more fucked than gtk but KDE has somehow pulled it off. (And while we're on the topic, they both *still* look like shit.)
@p @bonifartius @Suiseiseki @akai i had a problem with kde plasma where it would occupy half my ram on startup for no apparent reason, and no matter how much ram was available.

I ended up just switching to xfce and never looked back
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@yaboisugoi @Suiseiseki @akai @p kde is either a great or a complete garbage experience.

i just use a window manager like i did for about 20 years, does everything i want and doesn't get in the way. kde is nice for family who just want to do light office stuff, it usually works fine - better than windows and i can actually fix stuff.

@bonifartius @yaboisugoi @Suiseiseki @akai Yeah, I'm using ratpoison everywhere except this system, where I use fvwm.
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