reminder that duolingo has never been “good” nor “efficient” for language learning. even before it nosedived into AI bs.

if you’re willing to read on the methodology, there’s a book called “how i learn languages” by kató lomb. each person has a slightly different approach suited to themself, but any working one involves various learning materials that an app doesn’t provide

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@xarvos rosetta stone works pretty well for me, but it's pretty expensive. 50% discount codes are pretty easy to find.

@bonifartius what do you learn your target language for? have you achieved it?

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of course dark fedis lingua franca, japanese :p

learned more in a few weeks than with duolingo in months of daily use. their method might not work for everyone, but it certainly works very well for me.

most important: it doesn't send me guilt tripping emails that i'll lose streak or some bullshit and am a bad person for it. it's not a dark pedagogy experience like duolingo.

@bonifartius @xarvos the methods i've seen from polyglots is basically going top of word frequency list down, as well as clipping phrases and recordings from tv shows for the flash cards.

also read this recent thing earlier today https://borretti.me/article/building-diy-clozemaster

@icedquinn @bonifartius yes that is an approach for vocabulary, but there are other aspects of a language, and there are four skills to practice (perhaps except for sign languages and rare ones that don’t have written forms, but those are not the languages listed in a language app anyways)

@icedquinn @bonifartius and also at some point, whatever your method is you’ll need to practice with a real speaker of the language

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