@jalcine @braindouche I'm happy to be wrong & reframe my analysis around any theory that makes more sense of the senseless waste I've observed. Maybe @braindouche is on the right track! Will think more on this.

Appreciate thoughtful engagement.

@slightlyoff @jalcine @braindouche

Continue to feel a lot of this was due to (mostly men) who wanted to distance themselves from the girly stench of HTML and CSS via "real" programming.

I suppose they at least succeeded in inflating FE salaries as a result. Arguably a win.

The bizarre 2-4 year period where that crowd absolutely obsessed over purity and monads in their JS code only underlines my thinks there... FP is as "hardcore" as it gets to a certain personality type.

@betsythemuffin @jalcine @braindouche The re-gendering of frontend thanks to JS bros has me personally hot under the collar, but I'm trying to understand how common that feeling is.

/cc @whalecoiner

@slightlyoff @jalcine @braindouche @whalecoiner

As a lady-shaped person who entered the industry via frontend pre-Bootstrap...... I can think of exactly one and a half people I know who fit those demographic criteria and who aren't ragefully perma-bitter about the dynamic. The one and a half exceptions are still rageful but like the JS community.

Perhaps not a terribly visible demographic to... a certain kind of developer. But one that had similar traumatic experiences as that type rose.

@betsythemuffin
Absolutely. Those of us who were there know damn right well that the pipeline for hiring women devs has always been through learning html/css/js, vsb and fsking PHP as part of a non-technical job. 30-something admins and office managers! What do we know, right?
@slightlyoff @jalcine @whalecoiner