People, if your #podcast doesn't say anything about its nominal topic for the first five minutes (talking instead about the podcast itself, making in-jokes between the hosts and guests, etc, etc), I'm not going to listen to any more of it.
This is why I almost never listen to podcasts...
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A #podcast that does it right is Molly White's Citation Needed (recently moved off of Substack, yay!).
Thirty seconds into this issue, https://citationneeded.news/issue-46-checkmate-crypto/ , she's deep into the stuff about the actual subject. And there were no content-free jokes at all.
