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On the lecture, with conversation with , @psybertron writes:

> Many practitioners and academics have taken systems thinking down to the most fundamental areas of physics and into cognitive science. Dave is not alone in promoting latest thinking on these topics into systems practice and Mike is not alone in doubting the idea that such science can really be applied to the psychological context of human and social, organisational and political activities. Certainly doubting that law-like science can be applied any more than metaphorically.

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