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I attended a talk at a nursing convention on how to make LGBT+ feel comfortable. This was on one of the pages and I started giggling. Enough with the letters, a + is more than OK.

@freemo kind of hard for it to be an alphabet when some letters are repeated.
@hector @freemo It's a fundamentally collectivist perspective. That's why they need all the letters and all the "how to make <group> more comfortable".

@dtluna @hector They should basically just call it what it is "Everything but straight people"

@freemo @hector Starting your thought process with groups like "straight" and "non-straight" is a bug.
@freemo @dtluna reminds me of the AALANA organization at my university. Originally it stood for African American, Latin American, and Native American. Then they retrospectively changed it to be African, Asian, Latin, And Native Americans. At that point, why not just call it "everyone but European Americans", which is what it really is?

@freemo As long as questioning isn't listed as a gender in itself. Its all good.

@LWFlouisa Nothing listed there is a gender. Those are "sexual orientations".

@freemo I know some people who so far, they try to make Spanish gender neutral. Last I remember, English became gender neutral by accident.

This one lady listed herself as Latinx once. Nevermind that makes no sense in the native tongue.:P

@LWFlouisa English has always been gender neutral. The gender neutral pronoun to use is "he", which also can exist as a non-neutral pronoun.

@freemo I see the confusion. By gender I mean like when language use either feminine the or masculine the, depending on the object's gender.

Ex. La Pizza. Or in Rot 13, yn.

(When I do conlangs, sometimes the gender is the same, but simply shifted 13 spaces.) Ex. Quinzie Fry va Quv Gerfuf.

@freemo Yes that was a Rot13 pun on "Damnsel in distress."

@freemo For context, often times I study how English will evolve into different languages:

Ex.

Shu nuny sn ihd eni shu pn evolving from: Sunny side is up.

@LWFlouisa Yea i know what you mean. Takes different forms in different languages though.

@freemo OK, my knowledge of current gender/sexuality theory is very rusty at best, but aren't all of the other labels there pretty much covered by "queer"?

Also, the list above seems to mix some sexual orientation terms (eg gay / lesbian) with others that aren't (eg intersex)

@freemo some people prefer GRSM. it's gender, romantic and sexual minorities. it does a nice job of including those +s without having to add more letters.
but yeah, I've never seen anybody actually use LGBTQQIAAP except self referentially to the idea of adding the letters, otherwise people almost always just do LGBT+ and occasionally LGBTQ+ which, is ironic considering the Q is honestly slightly contentious as not everyone is comfortable with the queer label.

@Zest I've seen a lot of different letters added to the end with almost no consensus. LGBT+ and LGBTQ+ are the most common variations though I agree.

@freemo good grief. Just call them "non heterosexual" and be done with it and it covers everyone. They don't all need their own special letter.

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