@lerk@comm.network Opposite, because fewer dead people is better.

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Include suicide in your statistics, and look at countries like the UK. Guns mean death.
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@ster @lerk@comm.network Why would I want to include suicide, that is a voluntary choice. If someone wants to kill themselves as sad as it might be that is their right.

@freemo @ster @lerk People don't kill themselves because they're sad. Depression is an actual mental illness which has proven and well known cures. Providing easy access to guns significantly increases the risk of someone with depression killing themselves, if that individual does not have access to a gun they are much more likely to seek help and make a full recovery.

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@iamduck @ster @lerk@comm.network Sounds like the solution there is better healthcare so those cures are applied. The argument "we must remove all ways someone can kill themselves just in case someone ever wants to" is a poor one to me, killing yourself is far too easy to accomplish with or without a gun.

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