@lerk@comm.network Opposite, because fewer dead people is better.

@freemo
Include suicide in your statistics, and look at countries like the UK. Guns mean death.
@lerk

@ster @lerk@comm.network Why would I want to include suicide, that is a voluntary choice. If someone wants to kill themselves as sad as it might be that is their right.

@freemo
No. If you see someone about to commit suicide, you stop them. If someone can survive depression they can live a normal life. People have ups and downs and giving them guns tempts them to end it.
@lerk

@ster @lerk@comm.network of course, if someone is about to commit suicide you try to convince them not to. By all means, do that. A suicidal person may choose to jump from a tall building too, but we dont consider making tall buildings illegal a viable solution to that either.

@freemo
Access to the top of buildings is prevented. Windows do not open enough for someone to climb out.

Most people with depression do not plan for weeks to kill themselves. They have a rough time, and feel shit, and choose to end it. Guns are easy. Tall buildings aren't. The statistics are clear. Guns mean more suicide.
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@ster @lerk@comm.network All of which are horrific solutions. Everyone in the world shouldnt be prevented from being able to open their windows just because someone somewhere might be suicidal.

@freemo
You wouldn't let a random suicidal person into your house anyway. Tall buildings aren't as accessible as guns. The comparison is useless.
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