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@saxnot It's very difficult for incumbents to lose elections. The book The Dictators Handbook talks about why and you can see it in Canada and how long they kept Harper. Still we saw some pretty big incumbents losses in the US recently, Carter, the first Bush .. I dunno .. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he won again. @freemo @thegibson

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What I find particularly alarming about this conversation is how much it mirrors the election which got him in office int he first place. The left was so cock sure that Trump's support was too low to ever stand a chance that the left convinced themselves they had a sure win, as a result their voter turnout was lower than it would ottherwise have been and trump, actually having a decent amount of support, won.

Here we are again with someone stating a very objective and obvious fact that Trump had a peak approval rating around 58% and currently passes Obama's approval rating now.

By denying yourselves the facts and fooling yourself into the idea that no one likes him (which sadly isnt true) you will just garuntee him another 4 years. Then again I'm not sure a strong enough democratic politician will the primaries anyway. The few democratic politicians who werent particular extreme in their policies and thus stood a good chance of dethroning trump seem to also be WAY behind in the primaries.

So while I really really want Trump to loose and be replaced with a competent politician, if this thread is any indication, he will likely get another 4 year ssadly.

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@freemo @djsumdog @saxnot @thegibson for what it's worth, those of us who only tacitly support Trump because he isn't the extremist you guys pretend him to be, wholeheartedly wish for you to maintain your position of arrogant disbelief you've shown since the last election.
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