Wow trump just deployed today a SECOND Navy ship to california to help handle the epidemic.

I am really shocked he is handling this epidemic so well.. like really shocked. I didn't expect such an excellent response from him.

@freemo

He has been underestimated from the beginning.

His critics take him literally but not seriously. His supporters take him seriously not literally.

Imagine having a career politician like Sanders try and lead the country through a difficult situation like this. Trump has real world experience with leadership whatever you think of him.

@AtlasFreeman Thats a bit too much praise. He has dropped the ball on a lot of other things, but he does seem to be trying to make up for that now at least.

His biggest issue is just his lack of intelligence and his horrific speaking skills and vocabulary. Luckily you dont have to be too bright to be a president these days and like i said he is trying.

Its a bit like watching a mentally challenged toddler please his parents.

@freemo @AtlasFreeman What you've said here is the dumbest thing I have read all day. Your entire argument is designed to not admit that he's doing the job to the best of his ability unless you like what he chooses to do.

@leyonhjelm

Except I specifically said he was doing the best he could, to the best of his ability... I just also said his abilities are very low and as such his low intelligence is still reflected in how he speaks about the issue, which has a lot of negative effects (namely lack of confidence in him)..

But I do agree, this is no doubt the best Trump is capable of giving his handicap.

@AtlasFreeman

@freemo @AtlasFreeman as long as you keep acting like he's a barely functional retard, you will always look like a fool. Just pull up your big girl panties and say you don't like him and his policies. Or just go take a nap and let the adults handle the conversation.

@leyonhjelm

Other way around. I think his policies are ok.. some I agree with, some are meh.. overall his policies arent a huge deal, not much worse than Obama really.

I am not really too concerned about his policies or take huge issue with it. But its clear he has a very small vocabulary and isnt particularly bright.

The ironic part is, I know his family personally. All his children have been over my families home (my mom and dads home) and spent a few nights there. Trump himself has had dinner with us and them on multiple occasions but didnt spend the night.

He comes across as a bit slow on a personal level too.

@AtlasFreeman

@freemo @AtlasFreeman the results suggest you're choosing the wrong criteria for your subjective assertions of how he should go about things.

@leyonhjelm

I never said him being unintelligent was a criticism of how he should go about things.. Like i said his policies arent horrific despite his low intellect.

I am just pointing out the fact that he isnt very bright, beyond that im not saying it really means much. Like i said you dont have to be smart to be president.

It does however mean he probably isnt going to be a **great** president, at best he might be mediocer.

@AtlasFreeman

@freemo @AtlasFreeman you continue to make subjective assertions based on assumptions I'm not willing to join you in. You're either not a good communicator or you're engaging poorly in sophistry.

@leyonhjelm

What makes you think I have any interest in you joining me or any desire to prove my claim objectively.

I told you what opinion I hold, I have no motivation beyond that.

@AtlasFreeman

@leyonhjelm

Yea about what I'd expect from your attempt to take the test, valid.

@AtlasFreeman

@freemo @leyonhjelm

Makes sense to me. The man is literally a retard then, but in the same way some autists can also be very good at solving a Rubik's cube or other things that can be mentally challenging, Trump is showing the same narrow abilities, only he just happens to have a knack for running billion dollar companies and the most important country on the planet instead of a Rubik's cube

@AtlasFreeman

Sort of, I'm not sure he has a "nack" for either of those per se, he just isnt horrible at it as his intelligence might suggest.. Like i said he is "meh" at it...

His track record at running companies is equally unimpressive when you consider the s&p 500 has beat out his personal financial growth by a huge factor. If someone took the money his dad gave him and just put it in a single mutual fund that tracked the index he would have significantly more money than he has to day.

So in both senses he isnt a complete failure, but he has hardly been impressive either.

@leyonhjelm

@freemo @AtlasFreeman Your constant insistence of low intelligence constantly makes you sound like an idiot. Again you try to downplay his success because of your own subjective revulsion towards him.

Also, the S&P index argument has been debunked by a number of sources, but refuses to die.

@leyonhjelm

If you say so. I think his lack of intelligence is rather obvious. But hey, to each their own.

@AtlasFreeman

@freemo @AtlasFreeman You keep saying that and all I hear is "He doesn't talk the way a politician, professor, or talking head does, therefore he must not be intelligent."

The same argument has been used for generations against people with dialects and accents such as the Scots, the Irish, the American south, and against social and economic classes. It's been used in other languages against countless groups to be "othered." It's nothing but a method of gatekeeping. It holds no water.

@leyonhjelm

No its not that at all. Its far more basic than that. Just look at his vocabulary for example or his sentence structure. Its clearly some sort of developmental disorder or something. At least with regards to his ability to speak if nothing else.

@AtlasFreeman

@freemo @AtlasFreeman You just made the exact bad argument I just pointed out as invalid.

@leyonhjelm

except it is valid when it is his way of speaking long before he even became president and even in a private setting.

It is clear he struggles with vocabulary and when people use common but large words he often acts confused.

I think its pretty obvious to most people that he isnt very bright when it comes to his ability to hold a conversation if nothing else.

@AtlasFreeman

@freemo @AtlasFreeman No matter how you keep trying to justify your othering, you're still doing exactly what I pointed out as invalid. I reiterate:

You keep saying that and all I hear is "He doesn't talk the way a politician, professor, or talking head does, therefore he must not be intelligent."

@leyonhjelm

I never said anything about him not sounding like an prlician or professor or talking head. I said he doesn't talk like an adult, he speaks like a toddler and has the vocabulary of a toddler. Your average adult , not a professor, has far more mastery over english than he appears to.

@AtlasFreeman

@freemo That logic completely destroys any argument you've made about Trump's intelligence, so in a roundbout way, I agree.
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