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Ami Horowitz: How white liberals really view black voters

Ami on the Street: Are voter ID laws racist and suppress the black vote? Satirist Ami Horowtiz goes to UC Berkeley and Harlem to find out

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@sjw It's so funny because everything they say is actually quite racist: the idea that black Americas don't have access to the Internet, that the majority of them are poor and therefore do not own cars (or own but not legally drive cars with a license, because they can't get access). This may have been true a long time ago, but access to state ID is no longer costly or difficult.

@djsumdog @sjw Even if that was the case, the solution isn't to get rid of voter ID.
They just want non-citizens to vote so they can easily get into power.

@matrix @djsumdog @sjw That is definitely not the reason people are against voter ID.

@mewmew @matrix @djsumdog @sjw

While I'm very strongly for voter ID requirements at the same time I do recognize the real reason people are against them, and its simple.. IDs cost money, time and effort to get. So the poor and homeless are less likely to be able to vote. This tends to effect minority communities more strongly than others.

The solution in my mind is simple. Make IDs free and offer better services for people to go through the hoops needed to obtain them, but doing away with vote IDs all together seems like the wrong way to go.

I agree though, letting people who are not citizens vote is not the motive in the least.

@freemo @mewmew @matrix @sjw A state ID in Illinois is $10, and a drivers license $30.

I dunno .. I think if you're going to vote, asking someone to wait in line, pay $10, get an ID, and then get a voter registration card, is not an unnecessary hardship at all.

@djsumdog @freemo @matrix @sjw ok... let's say you're poor, living pay-check to pay-check - is $10 really that easy to afford? is spending hours of your day really that easy to do? the answer is no, it isn't.

@mewmew @matrix @sjw @freemo but let's face it, this isn't Europe. If you're a member of the working poor, in most of America, you're driving. You need an ID to buy alcohol, apply for a lot of state benefits .. one of the services a lot of homeless and day centers provide is helping people get their IDs (the one in my home town has an Social Security person come in weekly to help people; she even got her own office). I don't think ID is as big a barrier today as before.

@djsumdog @matrix @sjw @freemo not everyone has a driver's license.

You can claim that it is not such a hard thing to do - but look at actual cases of these laws being overturned: https://www.pubintlaw.org/cases-and-projects/judge-rules-voter-id-law-unconstitutional/

> Judge Bernard McGinley’s order recognized that the law would have disenfranchised hundreds of thousands: “The overwhelming evidence reflects that there are hundreds of thousands of qualified voters who lack compliant ID.”

> When the law was originally passed by the state legislature, many touted it as a means for eliminating voter fraud. Throughout the course of trial, the state admitted that no such fraud exists.

> Requiring electors who lack complaint Photo ID (and thus have no driver’s license) go to a [Drivers License Center] that may not be in their county, and may be several miles away and unreachable by public transportation, is untenable. Compound that barrier by physical limitations, preventing certain electors from traveling or waiting in line, the DLC Location Requirement becomes insurmountable.

@mewmew

Well thats not an argument against IDs its an argument for ensuring any ID law is inclusive of all types of photo ID, and as I said we need to make these free and accessible to make it work, which these laws never do. So while I support the laws in theory there must be other changes that happen first.

@matrix @djsumdog @sjw

@freemo @matrix @djsumdog @sjw yes, and I agree with you. I'm not opposed to requiring voter ID's, I'm opposed to overly restrictive laws to solve what is mostly a non-problem
@mewmew @freemo @djsumdog @matrix @sjw it's funny seeing all this voter id bullshit from european perspective where you are automatically registered and also you just use ID card and nothing else
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I have a home in the Netherlands and in the USA but can only legally vote in the USA. So if you are referring to me, not really.

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