In a world of polarized extremes, be the moderate and reasonable middle ground... Too much of anything is a bad thing.

@freemo I disagree with this formulation. Coddling / enabling isn’t “more” loving than tough love. The same can be said for many of these.

@Cosmic tough love doesnt even appear on the chart, so not sure how you implied that.

@Cosmic I wouldnt put it anywhere on the chart, tough love is a type of love, not a quantity of love.

So really your talking about two different properties, one is love, which is already represented, the other would be toughness.

@freemo my point is:

Enablement and Tough Love are both types of love.

Someone’s love can be at the 100% mark. That could be expressed as enablement, tough love, or any other type of love.

This chart implies that 100% love is enablement. It is not. If anything, enablement is often too similar to selfishness.

@Cosmic You are both making and missing the point here.

The love spectrum is not saying enablement is "a lot of love", it is a scale of how much you "give" to a person without expecting anything in return... if you do very little giving no matter how much they "earn" it then it is selfish. If you give someone a lot even when they dont "earn" it, or worse yet have acted poorly, that is enablement. However if you give just the right amount, when it is appropriate, then this is love.

As you point out toughness is a **type** of love, it isnt a quantity of virtue. a person who gives "tough love" could be giving any amount of love. You may give very little but do so in a "tough" way without coddling and its a little bit or much.

@freemo maybe there needs to be a new diagram with 10 paragraphs of explanatory text

@Cosmic Not really, I think it is pretty straight forward to anyone who has studied the historic/literary ideas of virtues. They are by definition elementary/atomic/fundemental properties. For example the 7 virtues from the literature of knights and nobles from the middle ages.

@freemo so instead of reading 10 paragraphs I need to read 10 books? 😜

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