So in a conversation that was relevant I went to check how long I've been int he Fedi. Turns out I've been here for 4 years so far and QOTO is about 3.5 years old. Its been a long run.

I wonder how long the fediverse has been around overall.

@Jojothegoodperson

Yea I started on Mastodon.social and a few other alts I had early on. Then after a few months I started QOTO.

@freemo
Oh alright, I don't like mastodon social because it's trying to not offend anybody but at the same time it's censoring people's speech and civilized discussions.

@Jojothegoodperson I dont mind M.S in terms of their users, they are ok enough users. I also dont mind gargron, he is ok enough... but I dont like being a user on the server as they are a bit too quick to ban people for silly things.

@freemo
I do, as I said, I don't like liberalism, I think it's worse than the right.

@Jojothegoodperson I suspect its more american liberalism you hate more than the right. and I would agree with you.

But keep in mind I'm a world traveler. The liberals in other countries are much nicer to talk to.

@Jojothegoodperson neo or classical? And the people or the ideals they claim to follow?

@freemo
What is neo? I don't know about classical, but I did a political spectrum on myself one time, and I was a classical liberal.

@Jojothegoodperson neo-liberal is usually what people mean when they say liberal. classical liberals are people who beleive in minimal government intervention (also called libertarian)

@freemo
Yeah, but I'm just tired of America politcs, it's fucking retarded oml.

@Jojothegoodperson yea american politics is quite inbearable.

I hate american liberals, I agree they are usually worse than conservatives, at least in the real world. Their ideals on paper arent too bad (though i think misdirected)... but in person they just act like the extreme right does but worse.

@freemo
I don't kmow, I think liberalism needs to improve on themselves, it shouldnt be about extreme politcal correctness (not trying to offend anybody). It should be about democracy and respecting minorities while also maintaining freedom of speech. Yeah, I won't even get into the LGBT community, it's a fucking mess and I'm homosexual! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Jojothegoodperson americans anywhere on the spectrum need a lot of improvment honestly... America is falling apart.

@freemo
Yes, I talked to my friends about having a system where presidents should have an IQ of 200 or above, that's how done I am with America. It has the geography, the protection, the freedom of speech, BUT THEY AREN'T USING IT CORRECTLY

@Jojothegoodperson I'm not sure an IQ will fix the problem honestly... its more than stupidity.

@freemo lol, japan has a very high intelligence, and it has strict societal norms which fixed the country.

@Jojothegoodperson While I think japan is a lovely place for those who wish to live in a place like that I suspect I would find it very unenjoyable personally. Its not the way I'd want to see our country "fixed"

@freemo
Why not? Don't you want to be done with politics and dumbasses?

@Jojothegoodperson Sure, but I would hate to live in a socially restrictive culture where there is a very strict sense of formal social interactions

I much prefer cultures where people accept the idiosyncrasies of others.

@freemo
I don't know that much about psychology, but I think it's beneficial, because that's mean there's no violence against people and just no bullshit (people screaming about what they believe in) but I am not sure.

@Jojothegoodperson psychology is about better understanding people. It doesnt mean all the problems go away just because you understand them better.

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@Jojothegoodperson Thats how they are now. You need to bow a certain way, exchange phone numbers holding your card a very specific way, you have to address people using honorific titles (similar to "sir" and "madam" here but more so....

@freemo
Yeah, it's complex even for me. No wonder japan has a low crime rate, but I also think it's a benefit because recently we have been having school shootings happening across America.

@Jojothegoodperson yea when you have an extremely strict society socially then that is the result a low crime rate.

What about the netherlands. They are very much the opposite of japan. Socially they are very lax, much better acceptance of diversity, and they too have a very low crime rate.

@freemo
Oh okay, but are the immigrants educated about your country? Because like every country, every immgrants that comes in the country must respect the stuff and historical values. And what do you think of america society btw?

@Jojothegoodperson Immigrants in the netherlands seem to love the netherlands and are well educated on its history. All part of the test to get in.

America is a shit hole, very toxic and one of the worse places to live in my expiernce.

@freemo
Oh okay, that's very impressive, they must have an average IQ of over hundred which is good. But are they any bad traits of the Netherlands? Because I definitely know that every country has a bad trait. But is America really one of the worst places you have been in?
@freemo
Like, damn, it's not the best country, but if you take away the politics, it gets good.

@Jojothegoodperson yea the issues with the netherlands are really just the fiscal policies and a few of their laws.. but nothing too damning.

@freemo
I have a question, how the fuck are you still up if you're in the Netherlands? The timezones is pretty different, and what's wrong with having a few amount of laws?

@Jojothegoodperson I'm not in the netherlands at the moment. I'am in the UUSa for about 10 days then off to egypt

@Jojothegoodperson well the netherlands may not be perfect.. but they are the best I've seen.

America is the worst I've been to, but I havent been everywhere. Britain can be pretty bad, its kinda close to america but not as bad.

@freemo
Really? I thought Britain was better than America because it's from the EU

@Jojothegoodperson britain is better than the USA, but just barely in some ways and worse in others.

@freemo
To be honest, I wished Britain had still taken over America forever because America needs to be colonizated. Like America is so problematic.

@Jojothegoodperson sure why not, we might have lost that war. But even if we did we would have become independent eventually, just look at canada.

@freemo
Hmmm, but Canada needs to have more babies, the population is low as fuck and it's sitting next to America.

@Jojothegoodperson lol only an American would go "Hmmm that country that has a low manageable population and mostly natural forests as far as the eye can see is really doing things all wrong, they need more babies!"

@freemo
I'm being honestly, canada would have been as powerful as America if they both had the same population, it's a fantasy to me because that means the north America continent would have been even more powerful.

@Jojothegoodperson to a canadian being powerful isnt as important as living a life that is good to the earth, to the people around them, and to the next generation.

@freemo
I heard it's liberal, but are the politics much better or worse?
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