"Because the truth be told, White supremacy is not a mental health issue," Jones said on the House floor. "It is about terrorism, and the shooting that happened in Jacksonville, Florida, was not quote-unquote racially motivated. It was racial terrorism, and until we acknowledge that fact, until we act on that fact, it will continue to happen."
'White supremacy is not a mental health issue': Justin Jones scolds GOP after Jacksonville shooting
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@StillIRise1963 These arent mutual exclusive... If someone wants to be a terrorist, that is a mental health issue. Anyone who behaves this way has mental health issues.
As a so-called "mentally ill" person, I'm sick of gun violence being framed as a "mental health" issue. The vast majority of mass shooters have never been diagnosed with any psychiatric condition. So-called "mentally ill" people are far, far more likely to be victimized by so-called "mentally well" people than vice versa.
Stop blaming this shit on mentally ill people when it is, in fact, sane racists who are doing this.
Thats some broken logic. Just because virtually all people who are violent have mental health issues does **not** mean that simply because you have a mental health issue you are violent or more likely to be violent.
You are sick of gun violence, great, being mentally doesnt mean you get to speak for all mentally ill people.
@freemo @sidereal @StillIRise1963 It's a comforting myth to believe that people only do this kind of stuff because they're not functioning properly. It's part of the just world fallacy, the same comforting myth that leaves actual mentally ill people fending for themselves on the streets because we believe that only bad and/or lazy people end up homeless. It's difficult to accept that people can and do make the choice to do bad things, because that means those people need to be actively opposed
@Vincarsi @sidereal @StillIRise1963
> It's a comforting myth to believe that people only do this kind of stuff because they're not functioning properly.
If you want to kill people then you already arent "functioning properly"... if your mental health issue is the result of your dad being a piece of shit and pouring racist shit on you, that is still mental health.
I suspect you are confusing genetic disorders you are born with with behavior disorders that result in exposure with an unhealthy environment.
@StillIRise1963 @Vincarsi @sidereal
yea no thats just wrong. Anyone who can behave in a racist way in the modern world is mentally ill.. In fact I'd go so far as to say anyone who is cruel and evil to others is mentally ill, no exceptions.
@freemo NO. And, GOODBYE.
@StillIRise1963 buh bye, dont let the door hit ya on the way out.
@freemo @StillIRise1963 @sidereal People are cruel and evil because they believe they are justified in doing so, full stop. Racism is not a mental illness, because illness implies something physically wrong. Mental illness is something physically wrong with your nervous/hormonal systems, racism is a false belief. It's no more a mental illness than believing in fairies, or that politicians half a country away care about your best interests. Being wrong is not the same as being ill.
@freemo @StillIRise1963 @Vincarsi @sidereal so if racists are insane, that would make them not culpable for their conduct. Which means that we can’t legally punish them when they commit criminal acts because of their racism (because it’s a mental illness). The racists would LOVE that excuse. And it would basically create open season on anyone not a white cis-straight, able-bodied Christian male.
@StillIRise1963 @freemo @Vincarsi People can do or think shitty things without being mentally ill, and not everything that mentally ill people do or think is shitty. This isn't actually that complicated we just live in a deeply ableist society.
Acting like racism is a symptom of mental illness ignores that mentally ill people didn't choose to be the way they are, and racists did.
I started to jump in this argument then realized, it's not worth it. They're trying to somehow justify racism and violence. And that's what it is by excusing it as mental illness
@StillIRise1963 @freemo@qoto.org @Vincarsi @sidereal That poster must be a consistent dip💩 clown, I'd already had them blocked
@freemo @Vincarsi @sidereal @StillIRise1963 you are wrong all around. If everyone who murdered was insane, then why do we have a not guilty by reason of insanity defense? No, people who murder are sane. People who want to kill people based on their religion or race are sane. The Nazis are sane. To say they aren’t is to let them morally off the hook and that is indefensible. Sane people commit murder all the time.
@freemo Racism is not a mental illness no matter how much you might want it to be. @Vincarsi @sidereal