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Just a reminder... While the jews are obviously wrong for taking land from the palestines in modern time the argument has always been "well its our ancestral land"... well even that is more or less a lie.
Below is the original borders of Israel in Blue (some might consider Judah part of it since they were jewish, but it was a separate country).
Regardless of if you consider the yellow and blue together as one it is obvious that most of ancient israel was contained in the borders of the modern bank.. and at least half of modern day israel was never part of the ancient lands of israel according to its first borders (obvious we dont count places it invaded as that isnt their ancestral land).
No matter how you slice it #Israel is in the wrong here and #Palestine is an occupied country.
The yellow would be debatable... but at least that would be an attempt at actually making sense when they say "its our ancestral land"... obviously to me the argument itself is nonsense on so many accounts... for starters, modern day jews have little genetic relationship to jews 3000 years ago... second, their claim to the terrotitories is largely based on biblical reference not histroy... and third, why should anyone have a right to land that 1/400th of your ancestry **might** come from rather than the people who live there now where 100% of their ancestry comes from it...
Logically the ancestry argument makes no sense if it werent a lie. The fact that it is a lie (int he sense its not the land they stole) makes it even worse of an argument.
second, their claim to the terrotitories is largely based on biblical reference not histroy
Are there historical records that refute the Bible’s account of the general layout of those territories? I don’t think I’ve ever heard that disputed before.
@realcaseyrollins There is no historical record proving the existence of ancient Israel. Yes there is quite a bit of historical record that contradicts or puts its existance in question.
The debate about is Israel **ever** existed is a very long one with a great deal of evidence, but not enough to really prove anything either way, as is often the case when we are talking 3000+ years ago.
There is no historical record proving the existence of ancient Israel. Yes there is quite a bit of historical record that contradicts or puts its existance in question.
🤨 I’m a bit surprised by this take. Do you think that, for example, King David existed in real life?
@realcaseyrollins @freemo this is ridiculous. There is plenty of archaeological evidence as well as contemporaneous writings to the existence of the Judea and Israel kingdoms.
Well I guess you know better than the scholars who are experts on this... ill stick with the actual scholars and experts... That said if you care to actually provide the evidence rather than just attacks I will be happy to listen.
