@Miriamm I assure you as someone who can personally confirm it, most of what we heard is more or less true. Yes there is bias, media spin, and as always not the whole truth... but more or less the jist of hamas murdering civilians is entierly valid.
@freemo @Miriamm I think we can safely say that the following is true: Both sides commit atrocities.
Hamas killed soldiers, but they also deliberately targeted and murdered civilians.
Israel say they target terrorists and say the dead civilians are unfortunate collateral damage. To a dead civilian I don't think that distinction matters much.
However, if the attack came as a surprise, can we really trust the Israeli armed forces when they say they know where the military targets are?
Both sides are projecting, sure.
But only one side has a charter that says "extinction of the other side"... Their sole purpose and reason to exist are to kill everyone in Israel.
And somehow the Gaza people voted for that, sure a long time ago, but if you don't object to your leaders, then you are also partially responsible for what they do.
This Israeli is challenging everyone prove him wrong. Please, go at it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNf40sBcvKk
> But only one side has a charter that says "extinction of the other side"
I assume you mean Israel?
> Their sole purpose and reason to exist are to kill everyone in Israel.
Oops nevermind.. Neither side wants the other to be killed off (except for a few really angry people). They do however want their land, The Israelis want the land they have had for.. about one generation. The Palestinians want the lang they have had for hundreds of generations.
It is no suprise (though no mirally justified) that the side that was there the longest, and have no had their home occupied for nearly a century, is becoming increasingly radicalized. Thats the consequence when you treat people as subhuman for long enough.
> The Arabs have consistently rejected the two State solution that has been proposed since 1897 or so.
> The Israeli haven't.
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> End of moral high grounds.
It is their country, they were there and were invaded.. they are under no moral obligation to accept a 2 state solution. Jews were allowed freely in the palestinian state, there was a working one-state solution. Then the Jews wanted to steal the state fromt eh palestinians and think they have the moral high ground? They lost the moral high ground the second they invaded and started taking land.