Cynical remark: murder is only a crime, because members of society mostly (likely unanimously) agree that having oneself killed is undesirable.
Want to not get killed? Go live in a society where murder is a crime with hefty penalty imposed if convicted of it.
@manlycoffee Im less concerned with if its a crime, and more concerned with whena nd why it is ethically wrong (if it is)
@manlycoffee Fair.
Me and @realcaseyrollins basically were debating. I thought most people would see murder as wrong because of one of the reasons listed 1 - 3 that deal with thought (things that require a brain in some sense)... he seemed to think it would be #4, thats its just wrong cause its a human (and thus fetuses <10 weeks old and brain dead humans would still be wrong to kill).