@jeff

I brought this up at the time, when the violence broke out he was asking for it to stop after a few hours.

The main counter argument I have heard is that he waited hours until after it already started to die down so it was an insincere gesture.

@beardalaxy

Well thats another matter... but its hard to deny they were violent, at the very least towards property, and of course quite a few videos of clear aggression towards police... but the damage was mostly property damage... still its impossible to condone the actions of the crowd that day, even if we do agree it was exagerated.

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Is that a surprising thing to do to a group of civilians breaking down the doors of the capital building? Sounds like a pretty attenuated response and fairly typical response to a riot.

@beardalaxy

@freemo @beardalaxy they didn't start moving until they did that, this happened after that directly because they fired gas and forced them to move forward into the building.

@jeff

Could be, not how I remember it...

I remember the first incident being a cop ripping someone out of the crowd and beating them and then the crowd responded by rioting and breaking throught he barriers. Tear gas was used after that.

Taht said there might be a tear gas video i missed, feel free to share.

@beardalaxy

@freemo @beardalaxy sounds like some of those FBI guys who got off scott free
nobody broke down any doors. the doors are quite sturdy, secured with electromagnetic latches. someone in the control room unlocked the doors, and the capitol police let people in.

@beardalaxy

You realize I can post links to images if I want instead right?

@not_br549 @jeff

@freemo @jeff the barriers were just moved by a cop lol, that's how they got in and took a shit on pelosi's desk or whatever

@beardalaxy

YEa I remember the barriers being moved. That is off and worth investigation... but the public, every members, knows well enough even without barriers they cant break down a door (or even if its open) and just rush into a building, let alone the capital.

There is no way to excuse their behavior, at best you can find some fault in the other side (plenty in fact) but none of it would tell any reasonable person they could behave that way.

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