@jeff

I brought this up at the time, when the violence broke out he was asking for it to stop after a few hours.

The main counter argument I have heard is that he waited hours until after it already started to die down so it was an insincere gesture.

@freemo @jeff "violence"

@beardalaxy

Well thats another matter... but its hard to deny they were violent, at the very least towards property, and of course quite a few videos of clear aggression towards police... but the damage was mostly property damage... still its impossible to condone the actions of the crowd that day, even if we do agree it was exagerated.

@jeff

@freemo @beardalaxy they fired tear gas at them dude

@jeff

Is that a surprising thing to do to a group of civilians breaking down the doors of the capital building? Sounds like a pretty attenuated response and fairly typical response to a riot.

@beardalaxy

@freemo @beardalaxy they didn't start moving until they did that, this happened after that directly because they fired gas and forced them to move forward into the building.

@jeff

Could be, not how I remember it...

I remember the first incident being a cop ripping someone out of the crowd and beating them and then the crowd responded by rioting and breaking throught he barriers. Tear gas was used after that.

Taht said there might be a tear gas video i missed, feel free to share.

@beardalaxy

@freemo @beardalaxy sounds like some of those FBI guys who got off scott free

nobody broke down any doors. the doors are quite sturdy, secured with electromagnetic latches. someone in the control room unlocked the doors, and the capitol police let people in.

@not_br549

That much is wrong, i have seen videos of it.

@beardalaxy @jeff

post one.

@not_br549

Sure, here is a still of them breaking through one of the windows and trying to push through officers blocking them...

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2021/01/06/capitol-protests/assets/images/door-break-2000.jpg

@beardalaxy @jeff