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If impregnating men were held legally responsible for unwanted pregnancies and criminally charged if they were terminated, none of these abortion ban laws would ever have been passed.
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How could a man be criminally charged for an act he didnt do? As for the man being financially responsible, that would only be fair if the woman didnt have a right to forfit the child for adoption either. Not sure that would help if im being honest.
Yup as was the woman, so both should have equal responsibility. That means if the woman has the right to forgit the baby and not take care of it (such as giving it up for adoption) the man should have equal right.
@freemo @georgetakei similarly, if they BOTH wish to terminate the pregnancy, currently only the WOMAN would/could face charges.
Correct because right now the man gets no authority. Even when abortion was legal a man had no say if they didnt want their child aborted (not saying this is a wrong legal thing, just that it is fact). If what the man wants has no effect on the outcome then neither should thepenalty.
Are you suggesting that a woman should only be allowed to have an abortion if the man approves?
@freemo @georgetakei where did I say that?? If a man isn’t willing to accept that the woman has ultimate control over her own body, then the solution is simple- he should abstain.
> where did I say that??
Where did I say you said that... If you had said it I wouldnt have had to ask would I?
@freemo @georgetakei read what I said - if they BOTH want the pregnancy to end, why is the woman the only only to face charges? he can impregbabt, drive the woman to the abortion clinic and pick her up but he faces no consequences?
Now this is different than what you said.. WANTING her to get an abortion isnt a crime. Actually aiding her in caring it out by facilitating it (such as driving her) would be.
But by similar logic if she gets her female friend to drive her to the clinic out of sympathy that friend is also going to get in the exact same level of trouble (jail time in some cases)
@freemo @georgetakei fair enough. Although your comments regarding a women ‘forfeiting’ her baby overlooks the fact that the woman is still forced to carry the baby to term against her will. This is barbaric. Again, if a man is not willing to accept that a woman has full bodily autonomy, he should abstain.
I just did a search for the word "forfeiting" to fiund what comment you were referencing and nothing came up. Which comment do you mean?
@freemo @georgetakei - here. You said forfit but I assume you mean forfeit?
@freemo @georgetakei but the man was partly responsible for putting the baby there in the first place.
If you’re part of a gang that robs a bank, and your only job is to drive the getaway vehicle, you’re still liable for the robbery.