Something notable from this chart comparing U.S. COVID wastewater levels by year, is that we've never seen levels this high at this time of the year!
(indicated by the black line representing current levels, crossing the blue line representing Omicron levels in 2022)
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@luckytran Viron particle count seems like a horribly misleading way to measure the severity of the pandemic.
> Obviously actually tracking infections is the only sensible way to track the progression of the pandemic.
You seemed to already have answered it.
@freemo @luckytran No I do not. How is it specifically "misleading"?
Yes it's less accurate. Not so much so as to mislead. It still gives a good overall view of trends among other things.
Because it's literally not a metric for infection severity. Your question is valid, but I'm just tired at this point explaining this stuff to non scientist just to have them argue from ignorance. Not saying your doing it per se. I just don't have the energy for this stuff.
@freemo
And what do you suggest?
@luckytran
Two suggestions 1) be sure to explain this graph is not an indication of the secrity of the disease so it doesn't misinform people. 2) get good data that is actually good at indicating the severity of a disease. Mortality rate and transmission rate together are generally the two numbers that have some validity at this.
@freemo
Unless you have a special body part you're pulling #2 out of, no pun intended, then good luck with that.
Personally, wastewater is the only data I trust as the other two you listed can be cooked/ manipulated.
Deaths don't show severity of a disease. I'm so sick of death being the determiner of how bad #Covid is when so many, sooooooo many people are alive with #LongCovid
I mean I literally do #2 for a living. Just spent several years getting good data regarding COVID-19.. it costs a lot of money, but no not pulled out of our ass.
> Personally, wastewater is the only data I trust as the other two you listed can be cooked/ manipulated.
I trust data regarding the severity of COVID by counting the number of green apples on a tree in my yard because it would be very hard to manipulate that data.
Data being hard to manipulate doesnt really help you when it has no relevance of any kind to the thing you are trying to measure (severity of a disease in a population).
> Deaths don't show severity of a disease. I'm so sick of death being the determiner of how bad #Covid is when so many, sooooooo many people are alive with #LongCovid
Depends on what your trying to measure. Death is certainly one way of measuring severity, one particular kind of severity. But you are right that other metrics need to be considered along side that, namely morbidity as a whole.
Again with the death. I'm not concerned about death, immediate or later.
Just your luck, you'll survive.
And I don't know what data you're paying good money for or where but this country took away testing and reporting and won't even say the word #Covid so we might as well all be counting apples.
Morbidity is not death, thats mortality. Morbidity are just conditions you get, here I am implying something called a co-morbidity which is just a fancy term for a sickness that often occurs along side COVID-19, such as long-covid.
@freemo
Read too fast. My mistake.
@luckytran
@freemo @luckytran How is it horribly misleading?
Certainly it is less accurate. Obviously actually tracking infections is the only sensible way to track the progression of the pandemic. But since it "looks bad" and was hard to fight the local governments (like Florida) who want to hide the truth, the government has basically abandoned everyone on this, so this is the most accurate metric. It's not perfect, but should be still pretty accurate overall. Any reason you disagree?