@CoachMark @freemo @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews The same Stein that's in Putin's pocket?
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Thats why I said Chase Oliver is my first choice.. Stein would be a compromise at best... basically anything is better then Harris vs Trump.
@freemo @Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
The "compromise" would choose the middle ground between democracy or fascism.
Erm, what would that be? Who would that be? How would they even get there???
Right, which is what I am doing. Harris and Trump represent fascism, and while Chase Oliver isnt perfect he is a good compromise between freedom and fascism.
@Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
Please explain to me two things.
First, how is voting for a fringe candidate who cannot win anything or accomplish anything any kind of compromise, let alone a good one?
Second, explain to me exactly how Kamala Harris represents fascism.
@Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
> First, how is voting for a fringe candidate who cannot win anything or accomplish anything any kind of compromise, let alone a good one?
Cause who wins or looses will in no way be effected by your vote. So your vote has no more value if you happened to pick the guy who won or the guy who lost, that outcome is the same regardless.
So since voting for the guy who happens to win accomplished absolutely nothing as well the question is how is voting for a third party candidate, presuming he looses, accomplishing something. Simple, your nudging the percentage points for third parties higher, and the percentage for primary parties lower. This in turn effects botht he calculated (projected) chance of a third party being a challenger int he future, and drives greater support to third parties (as they are harder to write off the higher their percentage points go).
So in short, while voting for a majority candidate absolutely does no good, even if it wins, voting third party **always** does good regardless of if they win.
> Second, explain to me exactly how Kamala Harris represents fascism.
In much the same way the republicans do. With violent exclusionary opposition to even mild criticism of their party. and the fantacism that goes along with that. Combine that with her general support of police and an unwillingness to fix (or even recognize in any meaningful way) the deep rooted issue with police in this country, and combine that with the genocide she supports in palestine the fascism meter is cranked all the way to 11.
@gfjacobs @Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
"In much the same way the republicans do. With violent exclusionary opposition to even mild criticism of their party."
Also a flat out lie.
There is a cacophony of voices within the Democratic Party who argue incessantly over all manner of policy and governance, from Cori Bush to Joe Manchin.
If your goal is to harm the party, you're not going to get much of a welcome, nor should you expect otherwise.
@Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
Thats the kind of bias I expect. I didnt really expect you to get past this point, its soo subjective to have a chance.
If thats really how you feel im not even going to touch that one. It comes across as just too far gone to be able to reason with in terms of bias.
@gfjacobs @Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
What a load of crap.
I said nothing of how I "feel".
Is Cori Bush not part of the Democratic caucus in the US House and Joe Manchin in the US Senate?
Facts certainly can be hard to argue against.
Past my bed time. I'll see if you come up with anything worth responding to in the morning.
@Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
As I said, I have no interest in debating this assertion of yours. Take a hint.
You did a great job at proving one thing though, the toxicity of the democratic party to criticism is very much alive and well I see.
@gfjacobs @Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
@freemo @gfjacobs @Burnt_Veggies
My assertion? My statement of facts that you don't want to debate because there's no debating facts.
There's nothing toxic about calling out lies and bullshit. What's toxic is letting lies and bullshit stand unchallenged.
Whatever the reason, for the third time, not interested in debating it.
@gfjacobs @Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
Must be tough to not be able to defend your bluster.
@Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
Not as tough as you having a tantrum over someone not being willing to discuss something with you. Grow up.
@gfjacobs @Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
I've been wondering why you've got so many followers. It must be for the performance, mediocre as it is, because it certainly isn't for the substance.
@gfjacobs @Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
@joeinwynnewood LOL well it helps when you respect peoples boundaries and if someone says they dont want to engage, you dont.
Just having basic level of respect for peoples boundaries goes a long way when it comes to popularity. As you said, its certainly not my "performance" because I dont do much of that.
@gfjacobs @Burnt_Veggies @CoachMark @WrenArcher @kamalaharrisforpresidentnews
Because it's respectful to completely mischaracterize what I've written and then refuse to explain or defend?
@joeinwynnewood yes, to express an opinion that you think is wrong and a mischaracterization, and refusing to debate it further is absolutely respectful. Even if i happen to be wrong about my opinion there is nothing disrespectful about refusing to engage with someone who has behaved toxicly and given every indication it would be a waste of my time.
