If you think Americans with preexisting conditions should pay more for health care coverage, you're going to love the new details of the Trump/Vance approach to health care "reform." msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/m

@stevebenen If there is one thing that is obvious to me this election its that neither Trump nor Harris have the first clue about what sane healthcare would look like.

@freemo

No. They both know. Trump doesn't want it because it's unprofitable. Harris doesn't dare propose it because she'll lose the election if she does.

It is the American people who don't have the first clue about what sane health care would look like. And that's also true of the populations of Canada and the UK, which used to have it, and continue to elect politicians who promise to destroy it.

I can't believe our species has survived this long. We clearly don't deserve it.

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@amerika

How do you figure that would fix the price problem with have? Why would that be driving up the price for doctors who are in no way effected by the act (it effects hospitals with emergency rooms)

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@freemo @stevebenen @argv_minus_one

The price of emergency services going up means that doctors will charge more for the same services, correct?

Doctors use the same insurance that hospitals use, correct?
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@amerika

No not correct. Why would a doctor whonprovides no emergency services of any kind raise their prices? Most medical practices dont offer or have any connection to emergency services.

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@freemo @stevebenen @argv_minus_one

If a doctor offers a service at a lower price, he is both losing money and signaling that the service is lower quality.

Emergency rooms are connected to the hospitals who absorb EMTALA costs.

And they are significant... look at how many hospitals, especially rural, have closed in the illegal immigrant belt.

@amerika

Dont confuse hospitals with practices that may operate out of a hospital but is seperate. Generally hospitals are for emergencies or overnight stays. And yes one might expect overnight stays at a hospital to increase in price.

But we are talking about general practituoners. They arent hospitals, they arent even competing with hospitals. Theyboffer entierly unrelated and isolated services.

Its like arguing a tax on apples would cause an increase the proce of 2x4 because they are both something a construction worker might buy.

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@freemo @stevebenen @argv_minus_one

GPs get what percentage of their clients from hospital references, and send their patients to where for specialized testing?

I think you can see my point.

@amerika

About 4%

No not sure i see your point. Why would refering to a hospital at only 4% have a major effect? Also the bill your talki g about would only drive up prices in the case of the uninsured who dont pay. If they cant afford insurance or to pay why would they have a gp to begin with?

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