everybody who disagrees with you about politics hates America and can only cheat to win elections. this post and the one about what Harris stands for demonstrate the kind of rhetoric that makes talking politics with people we disagree with seem counterproductive. you're not open to different perspectives and we'll just be constantly insulted. they seem designed to define yourself as an anti left edgelord (trying not to pigeonhole you) rather than a guy who promotes critical thinking etc.
> everybody who disagrees with you
Not even remotely true. This hyperbole borders on making me wonder if you're invoking Poe's law. I am generally civil to the people "who disagree with me". I do think they're wrong (hence why I disagree), and tend to tell them that, which I admit is off-putting to a lot of people, but I do not attack them personally for it.
But civility gives way to imminent danger. When you find an arsonist with a gas can and matches outside your home, you don't stop and invite him in for a spot of tea and friendly debate on the merits of whether your house should remain standing.
I have been very clear in every message that I am speaking of the US Democrat Party and of those people who pledge fealty to it. The party has abandoned your precious "liberal" values in favor of authoritarianism, globalism, and, dare I say it, fascism (yes, the old definition of the word, not the new redefined one that just means "Trump") The only 'freedom' that Harris ever speaks about is abortion, and that only because they can use it to politically divide the country.
As an aside, your support for the people trying to unite us under One World Government pretty much puts to lie everything you preach about decentralization. Decentralization is about local autonomy in all levels, including nationalism in the face of globalists, and states' rights in the face of federalism.
And, come to think of it, you've never explained how your support for someone *literally installed by oligarchs* and who never won one single primary squares with your purported love of "democracy", no matter which definition of democracy you use.
The Democrat Party is 16 years into selling out America's soverignty to globalist oligarchs, and four years deep in the dismantling of America's once-strong economy. This is not some kind of up-for-debate future prediction. It has LITERALLY BEEN HAPPENING under Democrats. Yes, anybody who supports that agenda is trying to burn down my country, and I am tired of trying to be civil to them.
I'm no Republican (and if you call me one, them's fighting words), but at this moment in history, the best thing about them is that they're fractured. Most everyone from the eras of Bush and Reagan hate Trump. Newer ones like him. There is no unified driving force, no matter what people say in their ultra-woke facebook rooms. When that happens, power transfers to the local level. It decentralizes.
Like it or not, the Democrat Party is unified (so much so they DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A PRIMARY!), and the direction they are going is toward global government and socialism, two things that will destroy America. I wasn't being hyperbolic on that point.
> rather than a guy who promotes critical thinking etc.
Says the person who publicly supports a vapid airhead communist marionette whose hidden puppet-masters are destroying everything I ever loved about my country, and the only reason you know how to give is "Oh, her opponent is a bad man!" Real critical, there.
Listen, we can have civil debate about liberal values. Believe it or not, I actually support quite a few of them. Especially if you use the old (and accurate) definition based on "liberty".
But if what you're looking for is someone to pander to your delusion that there's good people on both sides, and really if we just got rid of Trump, the oligarchs running the Democrat Party would turn around and abandon their global totalitarian ways and go back to loving liberty and social and economic freedoms and listen to the will of the people, then look elsewhere. I'm not picking up what you're laying down.
you said a lot. I'm a fan of 500 chars because it focuses the convo. I can't respond to all that rn.
OP said the election divided us in two, what the diff camps think about America and which side is going to cheat. I didn't misinterpret what you wrote. maybe you meant something different but I think you wanted to be provocative and so had to be dishonest. obviously what I say is meant to break this kind of framing for everyone who reads or hears me, but you ignore it. that's shitty.
tl;dr: My uncivility has always been for the Democrat Party, who is authoritarian and censurious and globalist and are, in practice, anathema to everything liberal, democratic, and decentralized that you claim to love, but whom you publicly support due to inertia, ignorance, and TDS.
You mischaracterized this as "everybody who disagrees with you"
you said there's two sides and transferred all your hate for the Dems onto anybody supporting Harris even though you support Trump and are not a Republican. but you can be totally rational about the 2020 results. maybe you've got Democrats Derangement Syndrome.
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