@jeffjarvis

My sincere hope is that people around the world see the madness in the US and say "Whoa, we don't want that sh!t here..." and vote against the right-wing loons.

Do you think that's happening?

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@kbsez @jeffjarvis

They already did that in response to the left-wing loons which is why the whole world is swinging right. I agree with you and wish they now did it too with the right-wing loons and finally realized both left and right are evil and will develop new philosophies born out of reason, compassion, and objective evaluation of the impact of our actions... but sadly I only expect things to get worse so long as both sides remain vile and toxic groups.

@freemo @kbsez @jeffjarvis "...both left and right are evil..." This sounds like one of those "using different definitions for words" statements that makes me question whether I can even communicate without a glossary attached.

Politics is a multidimensional spectrum, rife with shifting alliances.

The Marxist-Leninists and the Fascist-Plutocrats are both definitely evil. But neither entirely represent Left and Right.

@log @kbsez @jeffjarvis

> "...both left and right are evil..." This sounds like one of those "using different definitions for words" statements that makes me question whether I can even communicate without a glossary attached.

You are entierly correct that is extremely likely here because left and right are sadly very overloaded terms. So it may help if I qualify what **I** mean by left and right at least.

I mean the right according to more or less self-described lables int he USa and left more less by self-described labels. As in, the vast majority of those who are in the USA and would say "I am a leftist voter" would fall under this as would be those who say the opposite.

Again, only int he USA, there is a distinction of the left, you have what 98% call the left, which is just that self label, then then you have a small 2% who would usually refer to themselves as libertarians who self describe as "classically left". I would not be including that group here, at least not to the same extent.

> Politics is a multidimensional spectrum, rife with shifting alliances.

Agreed

> The Marxist-Leninists and the Fascist-Plutocrats are both definitely evil. But neither entirely represent Left and Right.

I do not find either of those are representative, entierly of their side. They are botht he most extreme ends of the spectrum of those two sides. I am claiming that while those sides are the "greatest evil" most on either side, even if not to that extreme are still evil, just, less exaggerated is all.

No, no I'm sure the people denying the excesses of the wealthy and demanding an end to the exploitation of all workers are equally crazy as the ones who think blacks deserve to be slaves genetically and immigrants are coming to eat our babies. Same thing, clearly! Both sidesz!

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@cy @freemo @kbsez @jeffjarvis Pets. They're coming to eat the pets. Or so the lie goes.

@freemo @kbsez @jeffjarvis Oh, a very big horseshoe must have been fallen on your head. Seems bad. Wish you well.

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