Doc Freemo 
Indoctrination of **any** kind doesnt exist. Its just people filling voids of one kind or another. Most indoctrination is finding friends among people who accept you and nothing more.
@freemo Hmm. How did you come to this conclusion?
Life expiernce... no one gets told by people they dont like and dont connect with "hey beleive X" and they go "Sure X it is!".. Indoctrination is always about fitting in, and that doesnt happen unless there is a void someone needs filled to begin with that causes them to compromise their personal beliefs in an effort to fit in.
@freemo @lnxw37b2 Ah, I like that response better than this thread.
The one thing I'd add to that is that in a digital age it's very easy to manufacture consensus, all you need are some bots. So something can *seem* popular online, but that consensus could be either faked or manipulated (for example, biased admins could remove dissent and have the same effect as botted consensus).
Totally agree, that is a huge problem. But its important to note it only works when those bots are imitating people of a group you wish to belong to. So it still depends on the underlying point, there must be a problem with your existing community to want to be part of some other community to begin with. So just bots that are part of the populace doesnt matter unless those bots pretend to be part of the community you feel strongly you want to be accepted into.
