@amerika Sorry maybe that is sarcasm - anyway measurably "no" as it misses the whole "good" and "bad" problem (i.e. who / wht types of people and which system and if they are using good...?)
Instead of pure-profit extraction for almost more pure profit - something else more honourable... not for good or even bad sometimes - extraction to currency, monopoly, suffocating control / suffocation, killing people).
And I'm not even dramatising that- ok actually maybe I should:
#waronpeople #humans
#war on people #humans
#humans_huniting_humans
#humans_preying_on_humans
#cannibalisation of next generations
#war on people #humans
@amerika It might seem I have morality only in mind (which I admit I have a lot of) but the overlooking that oppression *also works* is exactly the kind of positions I don't start to justify. Suffering works incredibly 'well' and is not good.
This is just one example, there is more - even if it's through 'softer' and more economic ways of stealing / cheating from people (like "planned obsolescence" etc etc etc).
AGREE ON THESE THINGS / THEY ARE NOT GOOD?
☑️ planned obsolescence
☑️ debt-based society (using new people like a ponzi-scheme)
☑️ big profits not shared with workers and overall society - centralising worlds resources within a few compared to everyone else getting worse off / losing to privatisation
☑️ locking people out once they "build it" for others - private people hold the keys at the end and can rent it, while others get little / can only just get by / need to take on more debt while working for others.
@amerika I was looking for a Y / N / Maybe and so none of that was done, but something said as your answer so I'll accept.
➕ I won't be looking to another page to answer what's here.
You mention tax a lot (in itself I believe cruelty / robbery etc but for you maybe it works as a 'system' - the amount of mis-spending and #war is a FIRM NO and if you like tax / leaders who are mis-spending it on such things that never really giving back any money (lol us) and are creating problems then I just have to move on. But thanks.)
Copy of your answers below....
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It might seem I have morality only in mind (which I admit I have a lot of) but the overlooking that oppression *also works* is exactly the kind of positions I don't start to justify.
YOUR ANSWER
Maturity requires that you do. "Justify" is not relevant; the question is what is real. Different systems work at different efficiencies with different upsides and downsides.
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Suffering works incredibly 'well' and is not good.
YOUR ANSWER
Depends on who is suffering. Natural selection makes the incompetent suffer; democracy, socialism, etc make the competent suffer.
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This is just one example, there is more - even if it's through 'softer' and more economic ways of stealing / cheating from people (like "planned obsolescence" etc etc etc).
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YOUR ANSWER
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Progressive taxation is theft from the competent to give to the incompetent; flat taxation or consumption taxes make more sense.
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(Quoting me)
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AGREE ON THESE THINGS / THEY ARE NOT GOOD?
☑️ planned obsolescence
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YOUR ANSWER
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When taxes get too high, companies cut corners. Remove taxes, unions, lawsuits, and other drama and this goes away. Before the unions took over, this was not really a thing.
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☑️ debt-based society (using new people like a ponzi-scheme)
YOUR ANSWER
This exists because of the tax-and-spend cycle. See the Keynesian circular Ponzi scheme.
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☑️ big profits not shared with workers and overall society - centralising worlds resources within a few compared to everyone else getting worse off / losing to privatisation
YOUR ANSWER
Workers need fair wages and reasonable cost of living. Taxation impedes both. No need for profit-sharing. Wealth is concentrated in every system; the question is whether you concentrate it among people who do good things (aristocrats, WASP elite) or clowns (techbros, Soros).
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☑️ locking people out once they "build it" for others - private people hold the keys at the end and can rent it, while others get little / can only just get by / need to take on more debt while working for others.
YOUR ANSWER
Sounds like a cost of living problem.
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reminder of QUESTIONS
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(I was asking only for a "Y / N / Maybe" for these things below:)
AGREE ON THESE THINGS BELOW THEY ARE NOT GOOD?
☑️ planned obsolescence ❓
☑️ debt-based society (using new people like a ponzi-scheme) ❓
☑️ big profits not shared with workers and overall society - centralising worlds resources within a few compared to everyone else getting worse off / losing to privatisation ❓
☑️ locking people out once they "build it" for others - private
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ABOUT TAX
... (DON'T THINK IT WORKS OR WORKS IN A WAY YOU AGREE WITH AND I DON'T)
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You mention tax a lot (in itself I believe cruelty / robbery etc but for you maybe it works as a 'system' which I think is self-evident from the amount of mis-spending and #war). So if you like tax / leaders who are mis-spending it on such things / never really giving back any money (lol us) and creating problems then I just have to move on. But thanks.)
➕ Again, I think you should mention it in your bio more clearly that you sometimes reply discussions elsewhere (and not here)
and expect people to look somewhere else while still using it here somewhat for shorter stuff... (I wouldn't have asked) But appreciate you have a method.
Replies here:
https://www.corrupt.org/boards/index.php?msg=262
After having the #Flakiverse eat up a lot of work writing responses to people in the past, I tend to post them somewhere more persistent.
Social media is great for low-quality interaction but the wrong form for extended discussions.
How many hours of work were lost when NoAgendaSocial.com and shitposter.club flaked out, or the freespeechextremist.com server crashed? Lots of good stuff.
So now I post on forums and shitpoast here.