[2/5] … as erasing all good that perse did. We should judge a person by the magnitudes of the good and the bad. Any individual who owned slaves or supported the Confederacy did wrong that way, but each such individual did other things too. In most cases those other things were of no special importance, so they don't change our conclusions. But there are exceptions. In rare cases, a person's other activities have been such great contributions to humanity as to justify our admiring that …

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How does any movement grow people and their mindset if it's only directly computer-related (or "babble" to the unknowing)... other areas and sector of humanity needed by every cause... 

@Alephwyr @rms
Not slating either of you - both kinda right in it's own way.

But more-so noticed usually doesn't want / didn't talk about human things before (or maybe I haven't followed for a while) so wanted to ask how you see it or him, as I thought of change as starting from human and and with a ending more than just computers - but he wouldn't reply to me on that at all despite reading it!

For computer stuff it was quick replies and was gentlemanly - so it's over my head growing anything without all the human stuff literally being aligned at least as we go along...

because if a movement doesn't grow people's mindset more directly (more than computers or "babble" to the unknowing) then I don't know how any movement is going to make a change outside their bubble which I think he's already conquered a while back and could switch it up / move sector now keeping similar lines !)

Long question for you since he doesn't answer here... Was good to see another comment.

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