I plan to close down my #calckey / #firefish / #misskey fork instance and then replace it with new software on the same domain name.
I suspect however that this will break everything and fail to federate properly with the new instance unless the Misskey instance sends what may be known as a "tombstone" message to it's existing contacts so that they know it's disappearing.
Think the problem will be that the private-key associated with the server will change, and so messages signed from the new server will be rejected.
Anyone successfully closed down an instance then bought it back with new software on the same domain name?
Anyone know if it's possible to get Firefish to emit these tombstone messages?
Or maybe backup the private key to be used by the new instance I guess?
Seems like these things will be impossible once the old server is deleted.
@pre Do you know of a way to move / import / copy posts from an instance to something more offline as a copy?
The attachment to online basically is what is wanted to be avoided and also being chained to Mastodon as software (if I've correctly got message they are not interested in defending frmo scraping data to things like Google search which has been happening for years now and I asked and got reply it's not up to them even though they are the 'alternative' I think we moved here to get away from our data / deep chats on Google)... and now with AI etc... but yeah maybe it's not up to them only but us to keep our data also...
I also wanted to ask if you know admins hell-bent of defending from text being scraped even f it's near-impossible, still the intention and will is needed otherwise just another Twitter eventually as they are invading my / your space and merging WITH US!
@freeschool You're replied to a post about Calckey / Firefish with a question about Mastodon I think?
It is impossible to have a unscrapeable public post, you can have a general convention against doing it, or even a legal through copyright law, but software isn't able to do that. It's impossible that you can let random person read it without letting random scaper read it.
So if you want privacy, you gotta go friends-only. And if there's more than 3 in the group you'll never know which one was the leaker even then.
Check out Spritley Goblins or Veilid maybe. Both promising but neither really with what you'd call a functional network yet.
Mastodon you can export your posts to a file from the menu's export-data. Not running calckey any more so can't tell where in the menus but it does have a data-export button. Even an import too.
All social media software needs to export AND also import one day? ...since people will want to move or even offline stuff...?...
@pre True, was written with the idea all software (somewhat) is the same here in that -> at least they need to export (and import one day?) and use the similar protocols too...
And maybe calckey does that but probably not from Mastodon (?)
Any calckey instance(s) you recommend?
I accept the public post can't be physically defended and is by definition public... so maybe more closed-but-open circle or baked-in way makes it a bit better idea for future but yes aside from humans as the weak point, I'm also not looking for Mastodon to say "it's your problem" or "we're not developing for that" (paraphrased) since it was them as main pioneers or the mainstream somewhat inside Alternative bubble that got people using them...
So appreciate reply... and yes know how to do the basics in Mastodon...
Never heard of Spritley Goblins or Veilid ! Feel free to say more why or I'll add to list to look into... Thanks
re: All social media software needs to export AND also import one day? ...since people will want to move or even offline stuff...?...
@freeschool Calckey is literally a dead project. A misskey fork which subsequently forked into at least 3 new projects, all doing slightly different things.
This is why I stopped using it. For the proposes I was using it, (basically single user instance), GotoSocial works much better.
Don't really know enough about any of those forks of forks to recommend any of them. If you want a community server, the community is more important than the software the server runs anyway.
