LOL, first time I'm trying a #Gemini audio overview, having grown excited, then increasingly revolted, by the #NotebookLM ones.

They've given their fauxdcast a tagline now. But it came out thus:

Fem-presenting voice: Welcome to the Deep Dive, your shortcut to being truly well informed

Masc-presenting voice: Bah!

F: today we're talking...
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It was aiming for a token like 'yeah' or 'Hi', but it ended up with a dismissive interjection from the M 'host' to the F leading the pod.

@MrBerard What don't you like about the NotebookLM ones? I have used some for my bilingual students and they are OK.

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@MrBerard I have used them for chemistry concepts and not paid attention to those overtones, just if the content was correct, which it seems to nail for me. I also have ESL kids so do one in English, check it, and then do another in Thai/Chinese/Korean. As a learning aid, they seem fine. We are a Google school though so will play with Gemini when I am back at work anyway and compare.

@MrBerard At the moment I have curated the resources and they "share" mine. I have done lessons on how to phrase the questions. I have been making the audio content and the mind maps but school is going to unlock it for full student use this academic year

@MrBerard I am a free CGPT user so not specifically. I have taken some other people's GPTs though (e.g. IB chemistry) and used them in preference over others. Just trying to get the kids to make good prompts and follow ups is the hard part.

@jellycrystals

Yes, when the user isn't good at telling output quality, the novelty and ease make it too easy and tempting to stop there

That's the issue with this stuff. Yes, it can be used amazing well on education, but this requires a common understanding of best practices barely agreed yet.

Without those, they can also be harmful to learning, used unsupervised by the learner (and we're all learners, in this sentence!).... Tricky one.

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