I'd give anything to be able to effectively communicate to people who are going to hand Trump the presidency because they want to protest Biden/Harris's support of Israel how much they're going to regret that decision.
I'm sure they think they're doing a lot and holding the line by "not voting for genocide" but the degree to which they're going to strongly wish, in a very short amount of time, that they'd made a different choice cannot be overstated.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2024/10/05/michigan-messes-mount-for-harris-00182609
How do you convince an entire group of people that think they're doing the right thing that they're about to do the one thing that a future version of themselves would go back in a time machine and change immediately?
Evidently, "the people you are claiming to support really don't want you doing this" isn't enough. And "the person you're doing this against really wants you to do it" doesn't move the needle.
When your allies are against your decision and your enemies are for it, and that isn't enough to make you realize it, what else is there?
@rodhilton I hope a great number of the loudest stupid voices are bad faith actors working for other countries.
@hacks4pancakes I think that's probably copium honestly. Michigan is in serious risk, and if she loses that as well as GA and NC it's pretty much over.
@rodhilton oh good, then Gaza can be turned to glass before they start taking vulnerable Americans’ basic human rights away!
Israel has killed several US citizens.
And lied about it until found out.
And the US response?
More money, more weapons, more shielding at the UN and from the ICC and ICJ.
@rzeta0 @hacks4pancakes @rodhilton if America stops supplying Israel with weapons, they will get them from somewhere else with zero obligation to consider American concerns at that point.
If America quits vetoing in the UN some other corrupt country (my guess India) will join with Israel because it is easy to criticize and take a principled stance when stakes are low and Americas position is well understood.
@sqncs @rzeta0 @hacks4pancakes @rodhilton hah, "let me be the greedy villain, because otherwise someone else might do it"
@rzeta0 @mapto @hacks4pancakes @rodhilton indeed, I'm arguing the Israelis are bad and will justify whatever behavior they want however they want
@mapto @sqncs @hacks4pancakes @rodhilton
reminds me of this
“If I don’t steal your home, someone else will steal it,”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/4/if-i-dont-steal-your-home-someone-else-will-jewish-settler-says