There have been many questions about server blocking #fediblock
On Mastodon.world we don't block many servers (yet). I don't block a server because other instances do.
We block a server when they host many accounts which breach our rules, and no moderation is done against those accounts.
If there's a server you just personally don't like, you can personally block the domain for your account.
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@ruud just out of interest is it possible to "unblock" a server for yourself as a user that was blocked by the instance?
Thank you for your work!
@arturN No, that's not possible. When someone thinks a server was blocked in mistake, they can contact us. If a user wants to see posts that break our rules, they need to migrate to another server 🙂
> Imagine if every user had to to that themselves...
This is, precisely, the main point of having those tools: to let the users decide whether they want to see or not content from other accounts/servers, even muting whole instances with one click.
@captainepoch @arturN @marathon0 What I'm trying to say, if 8 persons have almost a day job looking at the reports, how do individual users keep up with that? Also, most people don't want to see all the misery and block that themselves. They want a safe place. They read our rules and choose this instance (or choose not to leave). Anyone who wants an 'anything goes' instance and decide for themselves, feel free to migrate.
Well, when I get my instance up, any other that uses blocklists will not be federated by moi. The entire purpose of this ecosystem is to federate and NOT to be a single entity or walled garden. It dissapoints me to see admins that don't get this. Let users have the editorial power, we're supposed to be adults here. I'm on a much larger instance than yours and if I can keep up with the spam alone, then perhaps your volunteers aren't all they're cut out to be. LOL
@marathon0 @captainepoch @arturN Ehh, no, my server has 4x the users of qoto. But feel free to host your own.
OK I haven't checked so I'll take your word for that. Regardless the point stands - It's not that people want an anything goes instance, but want to be able to censor for themselves. Funny how people that beleive in 'Free Speech' like to moderate what others see with minimal oversight and/or transparency.
> how do individual users keep up with that?
I've been 4 years in the fediverse and I have muted and blocked accounts when those users bother me, it's one click, man...
> Also, most people don't want to see all the misery and block that themselves.
Yeah, sure. Take a look at Twitter and discover that this argument is no longer valid.
> They want a safe place.
Under your definition of safe place, of course, because "your server, your rules", bear that in mind. Because under my point of view, isolating yourself from the federated network is like going back to Twitter, literally speaking.
@captainepoch @arturN @marathon0 I don't isolate. I block only very few instances (see blocklist). And yes, my definition of safe, which is clearly stated in our about page. People can decide. Unlike Twitter, they can find any server they like the rules best. So, you do it your way. I do it mine. That's the benefit of federation. Lots of choice.
Once you as an instance start any blocking yourself, then by definition you're not Federated. This is the weak point of the entire ecosystem in my mind. If an instance is posting illegal content, let the law deal with it.
@marathon0 @ruud @captainepoch whoever runs the server and puts in the effort, sets the rules.
The beauty of federation is that you can choose the server where you agree with the rules and if don't find any run your own .
@marathon0 @ruud @captainepoch at least Email federation works that way. Try running a SMTP server that spits out too much spam, you will be on a black list and blocked very quickly by others.
This isn't email and we're not talking about spam per se but blocking on political and/or moral grounds. It's a slippery slope!
But I might be wrong, who really knows...
I'm beyond de point to reason with anybody about that, to be honest. To be in the fediverse while having an instance like Twitter is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.
That's part and parcel of being a user. Mastodon allows an individual to block individuals and/or instances. That's the way it should be done. I've spent the time to rid my timeline of the "trash" I don't wish to see. Took a bit of time, but it was worth it. This isn't the Birdsite were people need decisions made for them by the God entity.
@marathon0 @arturN Well, then you picked the right server, which allows that. Users picking our server want a safe place and agree with the rules. That's the beauty of the fediverse, there's a server for everyone.
@marathon0 @arturN We have 8 moderators now on our server. They have their hands full with all the filth that's reported here. Imagine if every user had to to that themselves...