Now that I've spurged a bit about a silly cat here is something stupid that I love.
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@DaveTLV yeah we just pay people to forcibly impregnate cows and kill the babbys for that delicious grief milk. bears should get currency.
@Ox Were you aware that traditionally raised veal is not kosher?
@DaveTLV no but I think that's a little weird if other meats are.
@Ox It's not kosher specifically because traditionally raised veal is raised in a way considered cruel by Jewish law.
@Ox While the main intent of Kashrut laws are public health related, one of the things about it is that an animal cannot be treated cruelly. It is considered a cruelty to separate a calf from it's mother and basically cage it or chain it up so it can't develop properly and stay "tender"/
@DaveTLV I would consider killing any animal unnecessarily to be cruel.
@Ox I think I can agree with that statement. I suppose the real question is, though, what does "Unnecessary" mean in this context.
@DaveTLV there is no other food source available or the animals quality of life is such that it's suffering and should be put at rest humanely
@Ox I would disagree on that. While I do believe that we've perhaps gone a bit overboard on meat production and consumption the truth is we evolved to eat at least some animal protean. The ability to completely cut meat out of the diet is a very modern invention- and I mean less than 100 years style modern.
Only the global market, with it's ability to draw produce from many different growing regions allows the nutritional balance required to eat healthfully. And, that's really only in countries where such a global economy has really taken route. Even then, there are areas that are less developed and require more local agriculture to feed their people.
Eating healthfully within that global market can also be quite expensive- far more than some of the less fortunate within even first world nations can afford.
There is truth, however, in how we treat animals being a reflection of our humanity. This should absolutely extend to how we treat and raise livestock. There should be no suffering for those we will be eating and when it comes time to slaughter the animal it should be done in the most humane, painless, and quick way possible.
Only the global market, with it's ability to draw produce from many different growing regions allows the nutritional balance required to eat healthfully. And, that's really only in countries where such a global economy has really taken route. Even then, there are areas that are less developed and require more local agriculture to feed their people.
Eating healthfully within that global market can also be quite expensive- far more than some of the less fortunate within even first world nations can afford.
There is truth, however, in how we treat animals being a reflection of our humanity. This should absolutely extend to how we treat and raise livestock. There should be no suffering for those we will be eating and when it comes time to slaughter the animal it should be done in the most humane, painless, and quick way possible.
@DaveTLV it is modern. and eventually I hope everyone will get there.
@mikelga @DaveTLV please, leave it at the door.
@Ox @mikelga Honestly, I think it would be better to learn how to 'grow' meat. I mean, it seems a bit sci-fi and odd, but if we as a culture and society demand to eat meat, we should do so in a way that is ethical and kind. Growing the meat, as it were, would be just that. It just be growing like a plant, only meat.
@DaveTLV @Ox It would be great if we could produce meat directly! I recommend you to read this delirantously hilarant novel from the early fifties VENUS, INC: The Space Merchants and The Merchant's War.
In its pages you can read a very weird form of farming that involves chickens. Please give it an oportunity. You will see how near were the authors from our reallity in their predictions.
