@toast oh please tell me more, my hero pirate haxor politocultural revolutionary megaidol, how many binary blobs have you reverse engineered? how many firmware signing keys have you leaked?
how many of your "do the right thing CC0" projects can compete in any real "market" today?

GPL is a solution that can be deployed en masse today, and "I don't care about reality, no law is freedom" types like you along with the straight up "proprietary software is freedom" types are the last line of defense for proprietary software monopolies.
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@namark @toast @georgia Hmmm… GPL is not a solution or a product and thus isn’t “deploy-able”. The statement doesn’t even make sense as other Open Source licenses are attached to many widespread things as well so.. what are you even trying to say there?

oh please tell me more, my hero pirate haxor politocultural revolutionary megaidol, how many binary blobs have you reverse engineered? how many firmware signing keys have you leaked? how many of your “do the right thing CC0” projects can compete in any real “market” today?

Randomly jumping into a thread and asking/demanding someone’s creds without offering your own. Bad form. Bad form. :laughing_cirno:

@wolfie

Nice try pretending that you looked up the definition of deploy in the dictionary. The point was that GPL can effectively compete with (and eventually directly eliminate) proprietary software today, while the permissive licenses can't.

The point of the mocking question was that the answers would be pointless. It's a lost battle and those are not acts of heroism.

@georgia @toast

@namark @wolfie @georgia @toast seeing as the seats of the board of any (F)OSS project are for sale and the majority of them are filled by corporate agents, that the majority of free software is sponsored by corporations, that the majority of contributions to (F)OSS is coming for people that are on the corporate clock, that most usage of said software happens within companies and that most of this software is made with huge teams in mind (good luck forking) what are we pretending we're defeating?
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FOSS is not anti-corporate, FOSS is FOSS, stop bringing your politics into it. Corporations can compete with each other and that's good. It's not about you individually owning the wolrd, that's a wet dream.
@georgia @wolfie @toast

@namark @trickster @georgia @toast Uhm, I may be wrong on this as it’s been a while since I’ve read on it but you might want to read up on the history of the thing you’re speaking on. A great deal of the original purpose of the GPL, HURD, and linked/related things was as a strike against the corporate owned and controlled Unix of the time. While that’s not necessarily explicitly anti-corporation, it’s certainly not pro and at best it’s evolved into a “Okay, you can exist too I suppose” sort of thing.

@wolfie Being agains current or past corporations that held or hold monopolies in software "markets" does not mean being anti-corporate in general.
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