@feld @mangeurdenuage @robby Got to love how advocacy for permissive licenses inevitably turns into advocacy for proprietary software. That is all that is being pointed out. You support proprietary software, and you can't take it, so you try to ridicule people to somehow discredit them.

Bringing up projects that openly admitted to have had no clue what free software or GPL was about doesn't help your case. This having no clue what you are doing is an industry standard by the way. Oh this glorious industry that has done so much good to the humanity! Sorry to burst your bubble, but everything from our beloved web, to desktop, to mobile, to embedded, to firmware, to hardware is absolutely pathetic from engineering point of view. Where are the quality standards? Where are the warranties? Even in poorer countries, most people consider warranty essential on certain types of engineering products. Nobody will buy a fridge or an oven or a washing machine without a warranty, unless you half the price or something. There are also repair services that in one way or the other also provide warranty. Nowadays people's livelihoods depend on software, and many public services demand use of software, all without any kind quality standards or warranty, and we, the professionals who are supposed to service and advice them, have made this ok. Software just breaks, and nobody can fix it, "works on my machine", this is a law of nature, proven by scientists(tm).
I'm sure slavery has also done a lot of "good" back in the day, and that many people where perfectly happy with it, doesn't mean we couldn't do better, or that we shouldn't fight it in every way we can.