@etnaRP One would still need to trust an instance owner to not do anything that will undermine it. Personally, I prefer using other methods of communication for that (usually I use XMPP, but many use Matrix as well).

@olives

@tennoseremel @etnaRP I think with the fediverse, there'd be a few obstacles (though, they're probably not insurmountable).

One would be standardization. As far as I know, the Matrix Foundation manages the standard, dictates what to implement, and it isn't as piecemeal (XMPP is more piecemeal but I don't think it is federated). Even here, they have to have a certain level of backwards compatibility. Also, I think Matrix has been E2EE from the beginning.

One would be the technical complexity. While there is obvious precedent, as Matrix does this with federation of their own, it'd still be tricky to implement. Also, how'd you handle one implementation having it and another not (and the UX implications of this)? I think Matrix avoided some of these issues by having it from the start.

One would be UI / UX. How would things like verification be implemented? Also, is this just an app thing?

@olives What do you mean XMPP is not federated? It is. And it has OMEMO encryption.

@etnaRP

@tennoseremel @etnaRP Interesting, I guess I've only ever seen it in a single server model.