Still one of the oldest #Python oddities I've ever seen 🐍🤔

>>> a = ([],)
>>> a[0] += ["what"]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: 'tuple' object does not support item assignment
>>> a
(['what'],)

Note that an exception was raised but the operation also worked! 😳 #pythonoddity

@treyhunner Ha! That's a good one, it really illustrates how `+=` is just syntactic sugar over the `+` and the `=`

@chris @treyhunner @s_gruppetta

It's weirder than that!

`a[0] = a[0] + ["what"]` reports the error but doesn't have the side effect.

`a[0] += ["what"]` reports the error and DOES have the side effect!

I'm shocked both that the failed assignment has a side effect and that these do not behave the same way. Can anyone explain?

@peterdrake @chris As @s_gruppetta said, it's all about how += works on lists.

+= on mutable objects is a combination of __iadd__ and =,

The __iadd__ call succeeds but the assignment fails

Interestingly += on tuples doesn't work this way! The += operator falls back to __add__ followed by an assignment on immutable objects.

So while

a += b

Is the same as

a = a + b

With a tuple or a string.

Those two lines aren't the same on a list!

This oddity is in the docs too: docs.python.org/3.5/faq/progra

@undefined @treyhunner @chris @s_gruppetta This has implications beyond tuples. If `a` is a list and we

`b = a`

then

`a = a + ...`

does not modify `b` but

`a += ...`

does.

@peterdrake @chris @s_gruppetta right!

I usually explain to my students by noting that __iadd__ stands for in-place addition and in-place operations are intended to mutate the original object when possible.

Though += and friends are most often used on strings and numbers, which are immutable so we don't see that behavior most of the time...

I do wonder whether it might have been more sensible to design Python to never mutate with augmented assignments, even on mutable objects.

@peterdrake @chris @s_gruppetta though this issue comes up so rarely it may not even be worth considering "what if they'd designed things differently" 🤷

Almost any time I might use += on a list, I tend to use the extend method instead because += on a list does the same thing as the list extend method anyway.

@treyhunner @chris @s_gruppetta I presume this feature was added so that programmers wouldn't have to think about the most efficient way of extending a list.

In the corner, the functional programming people are smugly examining their cuticles.

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